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| − | If you want to bring it up in the forums, feel free! |
+ | If you want to bring it up in the forums, feel free! If there's consensus on things (or someone else can find an actual source), that's always different. |
But while we know they recycle, you really need to make your case for saying they did indeed take an actual Scooter puppet, without a source (as opposed to "similar pattern" or other wording which requires less proof; similarities can be more readily apparent than "I know they took the eyes off and changed it even if it looks different otherwise to other people"). That's the area we try to avoid. Money saving isn't really enough reason by itself to argue that it isn't another puppet being reused, and neck wrinkles aren't really very effective (you'd have to somehow prove that only that Scooter puppet could wrinkle like that; of course if you could contact Barretta or anyone involved and confirm it, that's different, as always. |
But while we know they recycle, you really need to make your case for saying they did indeed take an actual Scooter puppet, without a source (as opposed to "similar pattern" or other wording which requires less proof; similarities can be more readily apparent than "I know they took the eyes off and changed it even if it looks different otherwise to other people"). That's the area we try to avoid. Money saving isn't really enough reason by itself to argue that it isn't another puppet being reused, and neck wrinkles aren't really very effective (you'd have to somehow prove that only that Scooter puppet could wrinkle like that; of course if you could contact Barretta or anyone involved and confirm it, that's different, as always. |
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| − | It basically gets into way too subjective areas (for the same reason, we long ago voted not to use "So and so puppeteered because it looks like their movement to me" identifications as opposed to credits, behind the scene images, or widely recognizable voice tracks). |
+ | It basically gets into way too subjective areas (for the same reason, we long ago voted not to use "So and so puppeteered because it looks like their movement to me" identifications as opposed to credits, behind the scene images, or widely recognizable voice tracks). We rely on sources, as you know, and basically those kinds of things, while they may in fact be correct sometimes, aren't actually sources, just perceptions or opinions. |
Latest revision as of 21:07, 29 October 2018
If you want to bring it up in the forums, feel free! If there's consensus on things (or someone else can find an actual source), that's always different.
But while we know they recycle, you really need to make your case for saying they did indeed take an actual Scooter puppet, without a source (as opposed to "similar pattern" or other wording which requires less proof; similarities can be more readily apparent than "I know they took the eyes off and changed it even if it looks different otherwise to other people"). That's the area we try to avoid. Money saving isn't really enough reason by itself to argue that it isn't another puppet being reused, and neck wrinkles aren't really very effective (you'd have to somehow prove that only that Scooter puppet could wrinkle like that; of course if you could contact Barretta or anyone involved and confirm it, that's different, as always.
It basically gets into way too subjective areas (for the same reason, we long ago voted not to use "So and so puppeteered because it looks like their movement to me" identifications as opposed to credits, behind the scene images, or widely recognizable voice tracks). We rely on sources, as you know, and basically those kinds of things, while they may in fact be correct sometimes, aren't actually sources, just perceptions or opinions.