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  • Hey, I found some more Golden and Wonderland records. Can you grab them so I can finally fix their pages? We have the Wonderland versions on top, and I've been dying to fix that. The LP's are here, and the 45 is here (the third one). Do you think the LP's are at too much of an angle? I didn't know if you could fix that.

    I think I found some more Peter Pan, too, but I have to check what we already have. Thanks!

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    • Sorry to keep adding to this, but I just got totally shocked by something I've never seen before: A book and record set of SS1 that's in a whole different format, here! I'm not even sure where to put this yet. And then when I was trying to find out more, I ran across the tape of My Record here. No rush; I just wanted to put these down before I forget.

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    • I got the Wonderland/Golden stuff and added it to the pages.... We don't have a spot for the Golden version of that Wonderland single I notice.

      I wonder if that SS1 was some sort of educational/library targeted pack? It reminds me of those from when I was a kid.

      I could swear I already got the My Record cassette image, but it isn't on the page. I remembered exactly how it looked. Perhaps I thought I had already put it on the wiki and deleted it from my drive or something silly like that.

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    • So the amazon image is pretty bad but I grabbed it. I've got the SS1 when you decide what it is :)

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    • I swear I want to say that I've seen a book and record set before, adapted for school use, and I remember the 45 books having little tabs on top. But they adapted so much stuff in the early days, that I might be mixing it up with other stuff, like the educational versions of the Show and Tell, and stuff like that. What's throwing me is that I can't tell if that came with 45's or an LP. The seller said there's no record with it, and I've never seen that kind of a Columbia catalog number before. Compounding confusion is that the "real" Carry About is CC 24509, and this version is CCX 2450, almost like it's an alternate version of the same item. I've never seen other Columbia book and record sets using CCX, and the Columbia catalog that Danny and I found at the archives doesn't list this, but it lists the Carry About. And yet, the artwork in the books is recoupled to match the order that the songs appear on the LP. And that looks like a bag that would hold 45's, like the other sets we've seen, but the bag says "Books and Record". So there's supposed to be one record, not a set of records, and not a tape. But if there's supposed to be an LP with this, the bag looks too small. Plus, the tape of SS1 says "The Sesame Street Tape", so they're usually consistent with actually naming the format on the package. So you can see why I've been going in circles with this. I was also reminded that years ago, my library had a tape of SS2 on Warner, with a small version of the booklet in a little bag like this. I wish I had remembered the catalog number, because I've never seen it since.

      Thanks for reading my posts as I think out loud. This may come in handy down the road!

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    • AAAAHHHH!!! I think I found the Ernie and Bert Carry About! I'll have to figure out what's here and rework it tomorrow.

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    • yay! And what a confusing listing! But nice pictures. Let me know what you need.

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    • Yeah, I started working on it last night. The set had 5 records when it was new. The seller has 4 records, and 3 sleeves, so 2 records have their sleeves, 1 sleeve has no record, and 2 records have no sleeve. Adding to the confusion is that the sleeves have two different sides, to match each side of each record. But this listing has something from every record, so I was able to piece together what's here, based on what we've found over the last 5(!) years. I finally was able to prove the last 2 record numbers, which were what I thought they would be all along, but I didn't want to guess. I was guessing that Put It Away would be the last song on the last record, since it's the last song on Side 2 of the LP, and the song talks about putting your things away when playtime is over. I was also finally able to confirm what's on each side of each single, which is good, because it looks like I had a couple of them reversed. So you can grab whatever you think would look nice to fill the holes on Sesame Street Singles and Sesame Street 45 RPM Sets, although it might be kind of hard with things on top of each other. I'm still hoping to find a complete set someday, because this should have a box like the other Carry Abouts did, but for some reason it's a whole lot rarer than SS1. I always see a bunch of that one, as well as the single 45's with their books. It's nice to know that even after an auction is over, if you have the entire URL, and not just the item number, you can still see the auction, although I think they disappear after 3 months.

      I keep forgetting to go back to the Golden/Wonderland stuff. I didn't put a spot for the Golden version of the other 45, because I've never seen one, so I didn't want to guess just based on the number. And how did you get the covers to look so straight? I never would have known that they were at an angle!

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    • sigh. you're right. There isn't really a clear picture of any of it. I'll have to figure it out when I'm less tired.

      The thing about the Golden version of the 45 is that we say the Wonderland one is a reissue of it, so it's odd not to have it on the page.

      Covers go straight thanks to a nifty aspect tool in the gimp (free image software). Also a lot of years of practice trying to put up books and records and videos! It helps to start with a seriously huge image as it tends to degrade the quality, and I can't fix it if the angle is too severe, but it works for a lot of things.

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    • Oh, that's right. I forgot about the reissue note, so maybe I saw it listed somewhere.

      I wonder if that bag of SS books came with the cheap version of SS1. I know that it was part of The Sesame Street Learning Kit, so maybe the LP was also sold with this, but we don't have the larger packaging. I still don't know whether to give it its own page, or put it on The Sesame Street Book & Record, or on Sesame Street 45 RPM Sets, because at first glance, you could confuse this with the other sets that come in a bag. Also, I don't know if you saw this, but the auction links to a Photobucket album with a whole bunch of additional pictures. I need to sit down and compare this to the other CC 45's, because I'm fascinated by how they did the regroupings of songs.

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    • So I found the two Golden singles here. The covers are at such an angle I didn't think I could recover them, but I grabbed the labels.

      One thing I found interesting. The copyright is "A. A. Records, Inc.". Who is that?

      The LP page also seems to be a bit odd. The text says it is a Wonderland album, but we the infobox and image are labeled for Golden, and the Wonderland number and image are down as "Other releases". Was it originally Golden? If so we should change the text. Interestingly, the golden versions (of the singles) say "Golden Orchestra and Chorus conducted by Vic Flick" but the Wonderland one just says "Orchestra and Chorus conducted. by Vic Flick" which would fit with it originally being Golden.

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    • I think I mentioned this a long time ago, but it's buried somewhere. Anyway, A. A. Records seems to be the copyright holder for Golden Records, and I think they go back to the 1950's. They were actually tied to Golden Books way back at the beginning, to the point where they even made book and record sets of some of the Little Golden Books. But some time later, they seem to have separated, but they kept their name. The funny thing is that somehow they became part of Golden again in the 1980's, and we can see that by all of the book and tape sets of Golden books! Anyway, during the 1970's, for some reason, the Golden record name became Wonderland, and a lot of the old LP's were reissued under the new name. That's why I was mentioning those pages bugging me, because I didn't want to say Wonderland at the top, because I knew that it was the second version. Now that we have both, we can fix it.

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    • Ah ok. You might have explained the A.A. thing before...; Golden is such a maze of brands that I would not be surprised if I forgot.

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    • Yeah, Golden Books themselves have been bought and sold a bunch of times. They started out with Simon and Schuster in 1942 (did you know Carly Simon's dad was the Simon?), and now they're part of Random House.

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