Talk: The Great Muppet Caper

Revision as of 22:37, 2 February 2007

Production credits

I know we would not normally include the film editior, or anyone as lowly the production runners. However, I have taken the liberty of including them on this occassion for the following reasons: The film editor was Ralph Kemplan who (I gather from his IMDB entry) was rather a famous film editor in the mid twentieth centuary. The Great Muppet Caper was one of the very last films he ever edited. Not only was he a famous film editor, he also started something of a dynesty of film editors. Both his son and grandson are in that business. As for the production runners, well one of them did just happen to be Lisa Henson, so I thought it worth mentioning that, given both her later work in film production, and who she is. I hope that is ok. On the matter of uncredited actors, I think it particularly worth mentioning Danny John Jules, seeing as he went on to do voice-work on Labyrinth. Emma 22:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I took out production runners. The involvement of Lisa Henson is interesting, but would work better in a trivia note, about family connections in the film and insider cameos, or something. As for Kemplen, he does seem mildly interesting, and did work on The Dark Crystal, but with these exceptions, it might be better to create a page for them first, not just a blank, just to make it clearer exactly why they deserve inclusion. That's what I did with Oswald Morris, who has an even more distinguished history, a picture, and some nifty quotes about Miss Piggy. I also took out the uncredited actors, temporarily anyway, just because IMDb isn't a very good source. While the participation of John-Jules seems verified by his own bios, his specific involvement is fuzzy. I'd thought he was in the DuBonnet Club scene, but comparing with other footage of him, I'm beginning to think I have the wrong picture, and I can't pick him out in any of the street scenes. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 22:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Emma, did the recent cast additions you made come from IMDb or from the credits in the film? — Scott (talk) 22:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Brian Henson

An anon. user added a trivia note about Brian Henson being the kid on the tricycle pulling the bikes in the park scene. I think Brian was involved in that scene, but he was much older than tricycle age by then. Can anybody confirm or deny? -- Danny (talk) 10:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Jim Henson mentions that Brian is on a tricycle that pulls the bikes, and that it can be seen in the distance. That was in the behind the scenes episode of the Jim Henson Hour.Rytter 13:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's also mentioned on Cameos: Brian Henson (although I've been tempted to remove it, since pulling a bike at a distance isn't exactly a cameo) and I believe The Works specifies it, though I don't have it handy to check. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 15:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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 I know we would not normally include the film editior, or anyone as lowly the production runners. However, I have taken the liberty of including them on this occassion for the following reasons: The film editor was Ralph Kemplan who (I gather from his IMDB entry) was rather a famous film editor in the mid twentieth centuary. The Great Muppet Caper was one of the very last films he ever edited. Not only was he a famous film editor, he also started something of a dynesty of film editors. Both his son and grandson are in that business. As for the production runners, well one of them did just happen to be [[Lisa Henson]], so I thought it worth mentioning that, given both her later work in film production, and who she is. I hope that is ok.  On the matter of uncredited actors, I think it particularly worth mentioning Danny John Jules, seeing as he went on to do voice-work on Labyrinth. [[User:Emma|Emma]] 22:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
+:I took out production runners. The involvement of Lisa Henson is interesting, but would work better in a trivia note, about family connections in the film and insider cameos, or something. As for Kemplen, he does seem mildly interesting, and did work on ''[[The Dark Crystal]]'', but with these exceptions, it might be better to create a page for them first, not just a blank, just to make it clearer exactly why they deserve inclusion. That's what I did with [[Oswald Morris]], who has an even more distinguished history, a picture, and some nifty quotes about Miss Piggy. I also took out the uncredited actors, temporarily anyway, just because IMDb isn't a very good source. While the participation of John-Jules seems verified by his own bios, his specific involvement is fuzzy. I'd thought he was in the DuBonnet Club scene, but comparing with other footage of him, I'm beginning to think I have the wrong picture, and I can't pick him out in any of the street scenes. -- [[User:Aleal|<font color="Blue">Andrew Leal</font>]] ([[User talk:Aleal|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 22:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 :Emma, did the recent cast additions you made come from IMDb or from the credits in the film? — [[User:Scarecroe|Scott]] ([[User talk:Scarecroe|<font size="1">talk</font>]]) 22:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)