Talk Spot: Rita Moreno

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Do we need this? I can see transcribing Sesame skits or something, if it's part of a larger project to archive a particular kind of skit. But one random sketch from an episode that's out on DVD... I don't get it. -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 04:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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:I guess it depends on if we're going to get into doing transcripts on the wiki. It's one random sketch now because it's the only one that's been done so far. -- ''[[User:Scarecroe|Scott]] ([[User talk:Scarecroe|talk]])'' 14:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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::Yeah, when the whole transcript discussion came up, we never did really establish any guidelines, outside of avoiding songs, complete episodes, and stressing accuracy. Though I think staying away from anything commercially available which otherwise lacks any historical significance (I could see a transcript of the pitch reel working, sort of), might be a good idea. [[User:Aleal|Andrew Leal]] ([[User talk:Aleal|talk]]) 14:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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:::Should we have a Current events discussion about it? -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 16:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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::::A CE discussion could be in order for the topic in general, but Andrew brings up a good point: we shouldn't allow transcripts of currently commercially available products. Which would say bye-bye to this page. -- ''[[User:Scarecroe|Scott]] ([[User talk:Scarecroe|talk]])'' 16:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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:::::Yeah, I'm cool with that. -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 16:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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::::::By the way, the same would be true of everything in [[:Category:Muppet Show Transcripts|Muppet Show Transcripts]]. I don't see the point of it anyway, and it doesn't really belong in an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Toughpigs|Danny]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|talk]]) 16:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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:::::::Which sort of brings us back to the general issue of transcripts, and which wasn't made duly clear when the decision was made to allow them (which is why [[User:Minor muppetz|Michael]] got carried away with them). It seems to me that there should be some sort of informational or other purpose and justification for transcribing. The four ''Sesame Street'' transcripts are not commercially available, the school sketch exemplifies the [[Sesame Street News Flash]] in a non-fairy tale setting, and the others can be justified probably for either the word play (The Grof/Gorf stuff) or showing early character development for [[Grover]] and a forgotten moment of stardom for [[Farley]]. [[Shrinkel and Stretchel Transcript]], I think, is useful as a record of an early industrial film (wish I'd had time to do more before the clips stopped flowing). So I guess there should be some sort of either implicit or explicit rationale behind any transcripts. [[User:Aleal|Andrew Leal]] ([[User talk:Aleal|talk]]) 16:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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-Do we need this? I can see transcribing Sesame skits or something, if it's part of a larger project to archive a particular kind of skit. But one random sketch from an episode that's out on DVD... I don't get it. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 04:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
-:I guess it depends on if we're going to get into doing transcripts on the wiki. It's one random sketch now because it's the only one that's been done so far. -- ''[[User:Scarecroe|<font color="Blue">Scott</font>]] ([[User talk:Scarecroe|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]])'' 14:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
-::Yeah, when the whole transcript discussion came up, we never did really establish any guidelines, outside of avoiding songs, complete episodes, and stressing accuracy. Though I think staying away from anything commercially available which otherwise lacks any historical significance (I could see a transcript of the pitch reel working, sort of), might be a good idea. [[User:Aleal|<font color="Blue">Andrew Leal</font>]] ([[User talk:Aleal|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 14:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
-:::Should we have a Current events discussion about it? -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 16:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
-::::A CE discussion could be in order for the topic in general, but Andrew brings up a good point: we shouldn't allow transcripts of currently commercially available products. Which would say bye-bye to this page. -- ''[[User:Scarecroe|<font color="Blue">Scott</font>]] ([[User talk:Scarecroe|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]])'' 16:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
-:::::Yeah, I'm cool with that. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 16:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
-::::::By the way, the same would be true of everything in [[:Category:Muppet Show Transcripts|Muppet Show Transcripts]]. I don't see the point of it anyway, and it doesn't really belong in an encyclopedia. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 16:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
-:::::::Which sort of brings us back to the general issue of transcripts, and which wasn't made duly clear when the decision was made to allow them (which is why [[User:Minor muppetz|Michael]] got carried away with them). It seems to me that there should be some sort of informational or other purpose and justification for transcribing. The four ''Sesame Street'' transcripts are not commercially available, the school sketch exemplifies the [[Sesame Street News Flash]] in a non-fairy tale setting, and the others can be justified probably for either the word play (The Grof/Gorf stuff) or showing early character development for [[Grover]] and a forgotten moment of stardom for [[Farley]]. [[Shrinkel and Stretchel Transcript]], I think, is useful as a record of an early industrial film (wish I'd had time to do more before the clips stopped flowing). So I guess there should be some sort of either implicit or explicit rationale behind any transcripts. [[User:Aleal|<font color="Blue">Andrew Leal</font>]] ([[User talk:Aleal|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 16:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)