Talk:Street Gang

Status

While we're doing some status checks on various items in Category:In Development, I'd like to suggest that this one be moved to Category:Unfinished Projects. The initial announcement dates from March 2006, almost two years ago now. Writing a book takes a long time, true, but the linked article is the only source, which refers to it only as a "planned" book and alleged "buzz" by publishers. I know Michael Davis conducted a few interviews with Sesame folk while working for TV Guide. It's possible that Davis is still working on the project, but with no news or indicators at all, I think this should be moved to unfinished, until/unless news breaks or the book comes out (which could be years; in the case of one book on animation I own, the gap between initial announcement and publication was literally over two decades). -- Andrew Leal (talk) 04:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that works for me. —Scott (talk) 15:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. -- Danny (talk) 18:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm in touch with the author via email who says that the book is on track for a late 2008/early 2009 release. —Scott (talk) 06:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

That's great to know, and definitely more reliable than vague references to buzz in a two year old article. Good work. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 07:03, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

It appears additional information has surfaced [1] -- Brad D. (talk) 22:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

For a better source, here's the Amazon.ca listing, which confirms Viking, gives an October 2008 date, ISBN numbers, and doesn't mention any subtitle. It's not on Amazon.com yet. We'll see as more surfaces, but I'm going to go ahead and add the info from Amazon.ca, since these sites *usually* verify their details; nothing's on the Viking website, and as usual, Muppet Newsflash doesn't mention a single source. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 03:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Brad -- As we've discussed recently, we don't consider the Muppet Newsflash to be a reliable primary source for news. A month ago, on Talk:Emmet Otter's Jug-Band Christmas (stage show), we found that the Newsflash erroneously published Muppet Central message board rumors as facts. We also talked about this on Talk:Disney Xtreme Digital and Talk:The Muppet Newsflash.

The information that Greg posted is very interesting -- but Greg doesn't reveal his sources, so we can't verify it. The Amazon.ca info is also interesting, although it conflicts with Greg's info. (Amazon.ca says October; Greg says tentatively planned for December.) A Google search for <viking press street gang> only brings up the Newsflash post. -- Danny (talk) 03:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I found the Booksamillion entry, which has the same info as Amazon.ca but lists the subtitle as well. Anyway, that's enough for me to fully verify the publisher; I'm thinking I'll go ahead and mention the October date ("as listed by certain online retailers," and we can adjust as we learn more, or just leave the date out. What do you think? -- Andrew Leal (talk) 03:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC) Andrew Leal (talk) 03:53, 30 March 2008

Yeah, I'd go with the publisher and October date, with links to those entries -- I think it's okay to have a couple store links in the footnotes, if we're using those as references for facts. -- Danny (talk) 04:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. We can take the sales links out as soon as more concrete sources surface anyway. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 04:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Amazon.com is now listing the book [2] - it also lists the subtitle of "The Complete History of Sesame Street" (which is now on the Canadan Amazon as well), plus it corroborates the original claim of a December release date (December 26th to be exact). -- Brad D. (talk) 04:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)