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When new clips are added

Something I've been wanting to know for a little while is: when they add additional clips to their site, is there any button or link one can click to see which ones, or do we have to scroll through the entire list to find them? Garrettk41 15:58, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

I think we pretty much have to scroll through them, that is if you're reffering to "recently added". Wattamack4 17:47, May 15, 2010 (UTC)Alex
No, that's not what I meant. Come tell me, where is this "recently added" tab you mention? Garrettk41 22:01, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

RecentlyAdded

You'll find it here. - Oscarfan 13:14, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. That helped. But is there any way to expand on the list and see the other clips that were recently added as well? Garrettk41 18:48, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
Just what shows up on that tab, and nothing else. That's why, as has been discussed, folks like Tony and Enrique have had to work to keep the clip lists on the Wiki updated. It requires both checking "recently added" frequently but also just adding anything one stumbles upon or the theme days (which depending on the topic, may often feature new clips). -- Andrew Leal (talk) 20:12, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's a start. Garrettk41 20:21, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

The links

I have noticed that alot of the links to the Sesame Street videos, when trying to get to them on here, have been very slow on loading... anyone know the problem? Wattamack4 15:45, December 24, 2009 (UTC)Alex

They aren't slow on loading, they're invalid links. The template isn't the whole URL. Frankly, even i don't really know how it works. - Oscarfan 16:13, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, I see... now that's odd, because every link I've putten down to the Sesamestreet.org release category is the correct one, because I always copy and paste it... I wonder how it turns invalid. Wattamack4 16:23, December 24, 2009 (UTC)Alex
The links to SS.org or aren't invalid, the links to the videos themselves are. - Oscarfan 16:25, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
Oh. Well, I've noticed alot of Sesame Street pages have the links... should we consider taking them all off then? Wattamack4 16:30, December 24, 2009 (UTC)Alex
No, because they work. Just the ones you've done aren't, because the template doesn't require the while URL, just part of it (I don't know which part, ask Danny or Tony). - Oscarfan 16:38, December 24, 2009 (UTC)
Well, I think I figured it out now: Basically the part after "id=". To those who officially know, correct me if I'm wrong. Wattamack4 16:52, December 24, 2009 (UTC)Alex

Updating the Segment Lists

Ever since the site has been revamped I have often been the one to add new videos to both the current and classic segment lists. Unfortunately, after today I will not be able to edit as frequently as I have been, and was wondering if anyone else can check the site regularly to add more new videos when they become available. Otherwise they will become nearly impossible to find as anything can be uploaded, and constant searching within the video queue or segment lists can be tedious when one has to do it over and over and over (especially when they apparently stopped listing segments in alphabetical order and by relevance). Is there anyone who could volunteer to regularly update the lists while I am away? -- MuppetDude 18:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I guess I could. I love browsing through the videos and summer vacation coming up, so I'll have plenty of time on my hands. - Oscarfan 18:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, thank you! You don't know how much I appreciate this. (And lucky you; in a couple of weeks, video number 3,000 should be surfacing!) -- MuppetDude 18:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome! And, are there any tips you have that would help me/make it easier? - Oscarfan 18:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, usually I try to add them individually, in alphabetical order (in case two segments that debut at the same time start with the same letter), and recently I've added links to help people spot new videos (though I've been meaning to add the rest of the links...someday). The videos are ordered the way they were originally listed when going through the site's video content (though not every segment can be found this way). In other words, segments that start with "The" go into the T section, and are spelled in correspondence to how the site lists them. (I've done this to add a lot of links whenever time permits, though Danny mentioned reformatting the list again after all of the links are added.) So for example, the guide has "Two-headed Monster Cooperation" rather than "Two-Headed Monster Cooperation." To easily find the new vids and add links to them, add hyphens to the new titles to narrow down the search. "Cat And Mouse Chase" could instantly be found by typing "cat-and-mouse-chase". This applies to characters as well; "Don-Music" narrows down videos featuring the character, rather than including these plus hundreds of music videos that don't feature him. -- MuppetDude 18:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Another tip: On each video, there is a section showing other videos. You can click on something that arranges the videos in different ways (such as "related videos" a nd "classic clips"). Anyway, one of them is "recently added", which makes it easier to find new clips without randomly searching or finding by chance. It seems that new clips have been added on fridays recently. I've checked, and no new clips have been added today, but the site is also stil the same "day" as last week (the day appears to change every friday as well). --Minor muppetz 19:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
And then there are those videos that never appear in that section. "Just Throw It My Way" was found not in Recent Additions, but in the search engine and video guide. -- MuppetDude 19:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
It's possible that there were more videos added than could be listed in that section. Assuming that the number of videos in that list-thingy is limited. --Minor muppetz 19:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Once again, soon I won't be able to visit the Wiki as much as I used to, so I'll need some help updating the list again. (A reminder: you can add links to new videos if you want for these, in case someone is wanting to see the new clips - hint-hint.) -- MuppetDude 19:23, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
I, once again, am able to do it. - Oscarfan 21:50, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Removed Segments (list)

In our previous discussion (below), I don't think we found any "missing" segments that were actually removed from the site, did we? Anyway, here's the history diff from when I added a link for the Hillary Clinton video. That link no longer works and a search on the site finds nothing for "clinton", so I figured I'd start a list here for those that have been removed. —Scott (talk) 18:10, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks like "Monsterpiece Theater: The Sound of Music" has been removed. "See the Signs" and "123 Sesame Street" have been removed as well. --Minor muppetz 22:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

giant lists

We have now, by my count, 7 different pages listing clips from sesamestreet.org:

Why are we duplicating so much? —Scott (talk) 23:01, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, four are sandbox pages used by Tony to help him compile the list and to keep track of things. Classic and Current make sense to me as divisions. Sesame Street Video Player's list is just outdated, and there was some discussion on that talk page of whether to keep updating it or abandon it or keep it for historical reasons, but that was it. I don't think Sandbox duplication is an issue, and they seem more useful as references and tests than some of the old pages, but we can probably stand to go through that category again in general. We can ask Tony if he still needs them wants them. As for the Video Player page, my vote would be to take out the inoperative list just link to the two more current, thorough, accurate, and browsable lists. Since the website itself maintains a classic/current clip division, and given how much is there, having those two pages makes sense (there's no duplication or overlap between them). -- Andrew Leal (talk) 00:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I guess I'm trying to figure out why we need sandbox pages that list them alphabetically and then separate articles for classic and current clips. I propose one page. One page is easiest to maintain rather than having to add new videos to two different articles. On this one page, the reader will have the option to sort by classic/current or alphabetically. —Scott (talk) 01:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Right, I was just pointing out that we don't really maintain sandbox pages anyway and they're not something readers see, really, unless they choose to browse there for some reason. Also, how would you merge classic and current so that the distinction can be maintained for readers without having to look at every entry to see which is which, unless we create an image chart with sortable cells or something (which seems like a lot of work, though there may be a simpler way)? Or if we can't give the reader the option, integrating the two lists also seems like a whole lot of work (again, there's no duplication between them). It seems to me it would make two giant lists gianter. I'm usually in favor of putting related info on one page, but I'm not sure it would help in this case. And we should hear what Tony thinks, since he did almost all of the work and he's the one who *is* actively maintaining them. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 01:11, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking something like this. —Scott (talk) 01:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I like the descriptions, but it's a monumental task to convert everything and integrate the two lists, and with the cel chart form, I'm not sure it makes maintaining easier, if the thought is to make it so casual users can add to it. So far, nobody but Tony has really done it. By the way, I just checked the website, and at least as far as anything the site has had under "Recently added" (something may have slipped under the radar), both lists are up to date. And they don't cover the same clips so it's not a matter of updating both pages every time they add a new clip, just whichever one applies. I know the Wiki is a group project, but this is kind of Tony's baby (not so much that I think he'd be possessive as that he's basically done it all), so I really think it might be polite to wait until he sees this. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 01:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm all for Tony going to town on this as much as he likes. I guess I'm just thinking that a new person on the wiki is going to be confused as to where they're supposed to find the "right" list they're looking for when there are so many of them. —Scott (talk) 01:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Again, that's assuming a new person would be looking at the sandboxes. I don't think they would be, but Tony last used them in January when he was transferring his original list and finding the best format (as he noted in the discussion on Talk:Sesame Street Video Player, he was concerned about how long it would take to load, especially for slow connections) so he's probably amenable to their deletion if it's bothersome. Sesame Street Video Player is a remnant; no conclusion was reached but I'm all in favor of keeping the text and image portions but deleting the list. So that would just leave two pages which clearly link to one another and have their individual scopes. A merge isn't impossible, and the text stands out a bit more; however, the cons are the effort on our part and the loading issues Tony mentioned which would affect readers. I'm on a great DSL connection these days but I certainly recall when it would have been an issue, and the cel chart format compounds. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 02:19, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
I thought I'd put my two cents in.
First, go ahead and delete the four sandbox pages. They were formatting experiments, and Danny convinced me to make just two big lists (without images). Second, I tried to transfer any information I could from the Sesame Street Video Player to Sesamestreet.org in an effort to keep any information and images that would be relevant so that the Video Player page could be deleted as well. (Feel free to check if there's anything I missed.) Third, I would prefer that the list remains unaltered for now, but if you'd like to do a test page to see how the table works, feel free. The current version is easy to read and especially to edit. And I like having two lists instead of one; as of now, the total number of clips is over 2900, so one big list would be hell to edit. Besides, it's the only major division the videos have, so it makes sense to have two lists. Finally, PLEASE feel free to update the list! I'm sure that there will be times in which I miss out on new videos, and sometimes they never appear in the "current" and "classic" selections. (Just Throw It My Way was discovered on the player last week, and I never spotted it in any of the recently added vids.) -- MuppetDude 13:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Great, thanks Tony! I'll go ahead and remove the list from Sesame Street Video Player and delete the 4 sandbox pages. And yes, I would love to help update them! This is in fact why I wanted to make sure we all knew where the list should be updated: so anyone could do it. Thanks! —Scott (talk) 15:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Street story

We use the terms "Street story" and "Street scenes" to describe those scenes in an episode of Sesame Street that aren't skits, segments or sketches, but the story scenes that frame an episode. For future reference, it's notable to mention that Sesame Workshop is also referring to them as "street stories" as evidenced by the keyword for their first street story segent on their video player: [1] [2] Just in case this wording ever comes into question. —Scott (talk) 17:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Nice, that's cool to know. -- Danny@Wikia (talk) 18:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Removed Segments

People have been saying that clips on sesamestreet.org likely won't be removed, but I noticed some clips that were added and apparantly removed. I don't know why, but yesterday I did a search for Kermit the Frog clips, and a few clips were added on the first page (for some reason the clips didn't have titled or descriptions, only pictures and educational subjects). I searched today and these clips seem to have been removed. The clips that were added then were Kermit obsering bears exercising, Kermit auditioning for the three little pigs and big bad wolf, and a Kermit and Joey sketch (I didn't click on that clip, but the subject was "thinking skills"). I just thought I'd park the info here. Hopefully what happened was a glitch and the clips will be added back to the site soon. --Minor muppetz 04:25, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I hope it's not because of Kermit "belonging" to Disney. I thought they worked all that out. -- Ken (talk) 04:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Sesamestreet.org's search function is still quite bewildering. There have been videos I've looked for that I knew were there that I couldn't find, but could again later. It's more likely that the search parameters aren't consistent than they're taking videos down and putting them back up again. Here's "Kermit and Joey: Thinking Skills" (SSvideo) and here's "Kermit auditioning Big Bad Wolf" (SSvideo). I can't find the "bears" film right now, but I'm sure it's there. Remember that this is still a beta. —Scott (talk) 04:54, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah, here's the "bears" film (SSvideo)Scott (talk) 04:55, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I think that if Sesame Workshop took down Kermit clips because of character ownership that all Kermit clips would be taken down, no just the last few that were added. And on a similar note, I've seen "Me Lost Me Cookie" in a few playlists, but can't find it jus tby searching for it (for example, it doens't show up in a search for "disco", but is in the Disco playlist, and was in the main page playlist a few weeks ago). --Minor muppetz 05:24, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
These are all problems with the search function, as Scott said, and things worth passing on to Sesame Workshop (though they're feedback isn't the best), but yeah, nothing seems to have actually been removed. For things like Me Lost Me Cookie or anything else where the keywords don't actually bring it up (or without same), a good tip is to e-mail it to yourself (via the "Share with a friend" option), thus having access to the specific URL for the clip: (SSvideo) -- Andrew Leal (talk) 08:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Another reason they were removed is because, other than the characters, there wasn't any text for those segments. (As of right now, the first video in the current clips section has the same problem, yet wasn't removed yet.)
Also, there are some video sites such as Truveo.com that links to videos on SW's site, so you can search for titles there, too. I've found links to "Me Lost Me Cookie In The Disco" and "Wet Paint Sign", but there doesn't seem to be a way to use the (SSvideo) template to link these. Does anyone know how? -- MuppetDude 17:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I found the problem: each video has 36 symbols in their ID code, so after removing the last few symbols, I have: (SSvideo) and (SSvideo). -- MuppetDude 18:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Excuse my spelling if I made a few mistakes, but Lately, 3 advertizing videos staring Grover and a S.S. Resercher (first name is Makeda, also mentioned in tags) have

appeared, then disappeared on Sesamestreet.org. One mentioned the new features, but before Makeda mentions them, Grover makes a suggestion: "Kitty cats sitting on the potty!" She tells him that there are no kitty cats sitting on the potty on the site. So Grover must delete the cat, but the cat says "That's OK; I'd like to have my privacy anyway.", then nods his head. --Bigbird96 23:43, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I was searching, and it appears that "See the Signs" has been removed from the site, due to recent controversies involving Chris Brown (since that segments been dropped from all future airings). --Minor muppetz 18:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

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