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Harry Gibson

An anon. contributor added the information about Harry Gibson. I think it's a stretch to say that the character was "most certainly patterned" after Gibson, unless there's a source for that. -- Danny (talk) 14:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

It's certainly possible, but we do need a source, of course. I removed the info until that time. — Scott (talk) 14:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
How about dis? --MuppetVJ 14:56, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
That was the source the anon linked to. The fact that he was known as "Harry the Hipster" isn't definitive proof to me, unless we know Henson knew and appreciated the guy's work. Since Harry the Hipster is also alliterative and all, and it could certainly be coincidence; plus even if the *name* was taken from him, I'm not sure it proves the character was patterned after him. The Wikipedia bio isn't enough to really determine how closely Gibson's voice and personality and so on coincided with the Muppet Harry. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 15:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia article supports the comparison, but doesn't link him to the inspiration for the Muppet character. I wouldn't be against mentioning that the character is reminiscent of the jazz artist, but it would have to be worded in a way that doesn't make us sound like we're making the claim that he was based on him for sake of speculation. — Scott (talk) 15:06, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I think it could be a Trivia note. We could say that there was a musician with this nickname in the 1940s, and a couple details about him. If we just state that as a fact, and don't make any link to the Muppet character, then we can leave it up to the reader how to make the correspondence. -- Danny (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
That works for me. Like the way we handled Marvin Suggs. -- -- Andrew Leal (talk) 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. — Scott (talk) 15:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Now that I think about it, is there an official source that this character was called "Harry the Hipster", or is it just a made-up fan name that has caught on over the years? Jim Henson: The Works has a two-page spread photo of the Sam and Friends cast, which has character names written beside the characters, and he's jus tlisted there as "Harry". In fact, Cecil the List lists him under the "questionable" section. --Minor muppetz 20:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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