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I don't understand how the first two "pros" are actually pros. Marionettes are operated from above with strings. They're not stick (or "rod") puppets at all. Seems like those are more properly "cons".

And even so, I'd think this page should give a definitive "no" answer to the question. Jim essentially said "Yeah, I used to say that, but I was lying." How can you argue with that? Galenfott (talk) 16:59, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

"Pro" means an example that works for the case. "Con" means an example that serves against it. —Scott (message me) 17:02, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
Right, I understand the meanings of "pro" and "con". My question is how examples that don't even use the word "marionette" relate to the question at all. They refer to stick puppets. Marionettes aren't stick puppets. Galenfott (talk) 17:11, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, good call on the '56 and '57 quotes. I moved them to the "con" section. You're also right that there should be a more definitive answer at the top of the page. The quotes for Pro and Con are all good to have on the page, but we should also have an intro that gives a real answer. Anybody feel like writing one? :) -- Danny @fandom 17:13, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

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