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Okay, here's a challenge worthy of the wiki. On the web, there's tons of references to Burr Tillstrom being one of Jim's "idols". But can anybody find an actual quote by Jim where he mentions Tillstrom? -- Danny (talk) 21:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, we have proof that Jim lived in Tillstrom's apartment building and according to The Works, Tillstrom once drove around Detroit with Jim performing Kermit through the sun roof of the car (p. 25). So presumably he must have mentioned him at some point. There's also Jane's quote about him as an influence at the BAM Event on Toughpigs, but yeah, a direct quote would be very nice. Andrew Leal (talk) 22:00, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
This is all I've got so far: "Jim Henson, who made the Muppets famous, flew from London to Chicago and back to London Tuesday so he could attend the memorial service at the Goodman Theater for fellow puppeteer Burr Tillstrom . . ." I'll keep digging. Andrew Leal (talk) 22:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
The mystery deepens. No direct reference to Tillstrom, but I found a Jim Henson salute to Fran Allison! "Fran was a bridge character between the audience and the puppet characters, said Jim Henson, who created Sesame Street's troupe of Muppets and who called Kukla a major influence. "You have a person who takes those characters as real, and that helps make the characters more believable. We have continued to use that technique." Andrew Leal (talk) 22:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay, I think I've finally got one: "Burr Tillstrom and the Bairds had more to do with the beginning of puppets on television than we did," Mr. Henson noted in a 1979 interview [anyone care to dig up which one? This comes from Jim's NY Times obit]. "But they had developed their art and style to a certain extent before hitting television. Baird had done marionette shows long before he came to television. Burr Tillstrom's puppets were basically the standard hand-puppet characters that went back to Punch and Judy. But from the beginning, we worked watching a television monitor, which is very different from working in a puppet theater." So no "idol" reference but it's a start. Andrew Leal (talk) 22:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

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