Thanks to Brad for starting this list! Continuing the efforts of Cecil the List and Unnamed Characters, it seems worthwhile to examine the use of "The." The current list contains every example Brad and I could find, and now to hash out when it's appropriate or not. Here's a few cases where it makes sense to me:
- When the "The" is clearly part of a character's name, and almost always used in full when addressing the character or in merchandise and credits: The Swedish Chef, The Grinch, The Pink Panther, The Amazing Mumford, The Pied Piper, The Boss, etc.
- When used to prefix a band or other group where "The" is part of the title: The Tarnish Brothers, The Teeterini Family, The Woof Pack; some could go either way, of course, as discussed at Category talk: Muppet Character Types. "The Primitives" is the term used in print articles as an official title which encompasses subgroupings, though it would proabbly work as well without it, but is there any reason for The Frackles?
- When part of an official title, as with nobility and other cases where a "the" would be used in real life: The King of Id, The President (I keep thinking Queen of Trash should be moved, on that score).
- If "The" is part of the name in credits or in print, though this doesn't happen as often, and usually the character falls under one of the other categories already. Still, I created several Labyrinth pages, using the credits as my model: The Worm, The Wiseman, etc. Nobody really goes around addressing each other in that movie anyway.
Also, since "the" could be construed as part of an official name, in cases where we know the name is fan created, such as The Arab, in the future, it would probably be worth avoiding if at all possible. Thoughts? Andrew Leal (talk) 03:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree 100% with what you said. I think some sorting of the list is in order to see where that gets us. -- Brad D. (talk) 03:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think that the Snerfs could at least be listed under "questionable". In episode 113 of The Muppet Show, Kermit introduces them as "The Snerfs", and then, as he questions the title, as "The Snerfs?" I think "The" could be considered official for The Snowths. Most albums that include the song "Mahna Mahna" identifies the singers as "Mahna Mahna and the two Snowths". And I think that the Cow Announcer was refferred to by that title when it appeared in episode 202 of Muppets Tonight. I also feel like there was either a Veterinarians Hospital or Pigs in Space sketch where somebody said "Cue The Announcer", which to me would make "the" official, but I can't remember which episode it was said in. --Minor muppetz 23:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)