User:MuppetArchives/Quality article nominations

A quality article should exemplify Muppet Wiki's very best work. Quality status is given based on merit, as determined by the Muppet Wiki contributors.

Nominees

Time travel

• Nomination: This is a very fun, interesting, well-written and comprehensive collection of time travel in the Muppet universe. Add to that a nice look at time travel in productions connected to the Muppets. Scott put a lot of thought into this page, and so I think it should receive a Fred. --Justin 14:08, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

• Support Justin beat to the nomination. I think its a great article, and just the type we can have fun with here. -- Nate (talk) 14:29, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Approved

Baseball

• Nomination: After looking over the article again today, and spring training right around the corner, I'd like to nominate the article. It's a very comprehensive listing of baseball in the muppet universe. From Baseball Players who have appeared with the Muppets, examples of the game being played, references to sports teams, merchandise related to baseball, and storylines based around the game, its just a very fun, interesting, and informative read. -- Nate (talk) 18:08, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: I agree that it looks pretty darn good, but there's still a few images missing from the Baseball Players gallery at the bottom, as well as a few red links throughout. Once those are filled in, I'd support it. --Justin 18:25, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: I removed the redlinks. One was for Basketball, which is an article I've not tackled yet but will be forthcoming, the other was an episode link that Enrique added, which is for an article that I'm sure he will be adding in the future. There are two baseball players we don't have pictures of, and they are from episodes from the 1970's which I'm sure we will add at some point. In the meantime, a "photo not available" placecard is in the gallery for their spot. Not something that I think detracts from the article. -- Nate (talk) 18:38, February 25, 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: I think it's a pretty amazing article. I know you already trimmed some from the lead-in, but there's still no Muppet content above the fold. If we want to keep that stuff for the connections, can we move it further down in the article? —Scott (talk) 01:03, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Yeah, it's a great article, but I agree with Scott, some Muppet stuff higher would help. Maybe use an approach closer to China and Ice cream, where it's more integrated, rather then "Here's background with a lot of connected links, and here's a list." I'll try to tackle it later, but some amusing lines, describing the Muppets' baseball game with the Fabulous Baseball Diamond in The Great Muppet Caper. Also, right now all the images on the side collide with the player gallery. I'd say either jettison some of those (the Robin Williams pic for example isn't that exciting or amusing) or convert to a gallery of its own before the players list (which is really more amusing and interesting than the random pictures of characters in baseball caps or gloves). While some of the stuff may be better as dry lists, a lot of the character stuff can be reworked and moved up in the article. Combine a lot of the "Elmo and baseball" or "Big Bird and baseball" stuff into a more narrative form (even working it within the history of baseball you already have, perhaps) since a lot of those simple sentences seem to blend together after awhile and some are kind of bland. I *really* like this passage, though: "Baby Bear asks Telly to play baseball, and he convinces Baby Bear to let Freddy play baseball with them. The doll's baseball skills prove to be sorely lacking in episode 4121." Clearer subheadings might help too (for the books and animated stuff which feels kind of just jammed in right now).

I'm too tired to do much today. You've done a great job, Nate, and I think it's really *close* to quality, since it's exhaustive and impeccably thorough so all the material is there. It's just some of that material, both visual and written, could use some sprucing up (which if we pitch in, I'm sure it can be done within the nomination period). -- Andrew Leal (talk) 01:21, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Just chiming in to agree with pretty much everybody. :) It has the makings of a Quality article, but needs some more work to get Muppet content higher. Nate and I talked about cutting down the intro on Talk:Baseball in December, and he cut it from five paragraphs to three. I understand the appeal of having lots of links to surprising places, but I think it's better to focus on the baseball-related links (Casey at the Bat, players and stadiums, Who's on First). We can take out all the sentences that are just there to add non-related links (Canada, Australia, Olympic Games, Time magazine). I took a pass at a completely ruthless trim; we can see how it looks. -- Danny (talk) 11:48, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Hmmmm, without the extra info that was removed, now there's a new problem. At least in my browser, the baseball players gallery is pushed really far away from its heading.--Justin 14:36, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Oops, sorry; that was my bad. I took out a couple of pictures; it lines up now. -- Danny (talk) 16:29, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

• Support: Since the changes, I'm now in support of this article for Quality status. Nice job! —Scott (talk) 20:00, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

• Support: I agree, I think it's fantastic! -- Danny (talk) 00:40, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

• Support --Justin 00:26, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

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