Muppet Wiki:Policies and Guidelines

This is a list of the Policies and Guidelines discussed and agreed upon by the Muppet Wiki community.

Article style

Muppet Wiki:Style Guide

We don't link years unless it's relevant to the subject. (CE discussion)

Due to the frequency with which videos are removed from YouTube, we try to keep links to that site at a minimum. Some exceptions include accounts owned by regular contributors who are keeping an eye on their own links or cases where wiki information is being sourced. We also never link to anything that's commercially available.

Spoilers (CE discussion)

Embedding videos (CE discussion)

In/On (CE discussion)

's - no consensus (CE discussion)

Muppet Show guest bios (CE discussion)

Quoting and bolding song titles (CE discussion)

Performer boxes are for the main performer(s) of a character only. Performer histories are covered in the article. See Talk:Janice, Talk:Sam the Eagle, Talk:Dr. Teeth, and others.

When summarizing fictional events that happened in a TV show, book, or film, the present tense is used unless explicitly dealing with a character's backstory prior to the episode. This rule applies even if the production follows characters over a certain length of time. The exception applies to character pages with long and detailed histories over a span of several (real life) years and projects. To quote Danny: "The point is that the writing always takes place in the present of the moment that you're writing about. If the episode that you're writing about shifts from one sentence to another, then the present tense follows it."(CE discussion)

Posting the full lyrics to a song isn't allowed on the wiki; it's considered a violation of the songwriter's copyright, and that's a violation that is enforced more often than images or other potential violations. It's okay to quote selected lines from a song within the context of a larger article about that song, the songwriter, or the character.

Entries are expected to be made with proper grammar, capitalization and spacing.

Pictures go above book templates, but below song templates. A book cover has more information value than the book template, so it should go above the template. A picture of someone singing a song has less information value than the song template, so it goes below. The book cover is documentation; the song picture is illustration.

Image captions shouldn't contain quotes or commentary as they aren't considered NPOV contributions. Informational or explanatory captions are welcome when necessary, but aren't always needed. For example, a single image on a character page is self-explanatory: it's a picture of that character. But a column of images on a long list of references may require some text to identify how the illustration relates to the article. (Although a wry description in keeping with the spirit of the scene may be okay.)

We also don't use quotes for favorite or famous lines. We don't want to become a quote database, and picking the best ones is subject to one's point of view.

The purpose of disambiguation pages is to redirect the user to the page they're looking for. When other links are included, it tends to confuse that process. As such, only the articles being disambiguated should be linked, and any other discernable information should be kept limited to the point that a visitor can determine which of the articles they are looking for. All other pertinent information and wiki links can be found in the following article. More on disambiguation: (CE discussion)

Sources

IMDb and Wikipedia (and other user generated sites like The Muppet Newsflash blog that don't cite sources) are generally not sources when it comes to Muppet/Henson productions. Such information should only be added or entries only brought up if they are confirmed by screen credits, presskits, or other reliable outside sources. Otherwise, it generally reflects what an unknown user *thinks* is correct, and in many cases reflects rumors, guesses, or even personal fantasies and outright nonsense. - (we've discussed this a number of times over the years; I'll try to dig up examples on talk pages; one source includes Talk:Roscoe Lee Browne)

Because so many sketches were repeated over the years, and there have been so many in so many episodes, it's hard to commit to saying that "xxx" first appeared in Episode "yyyy". Instead, we list the Earliest Known Appearances, so that if an earlier appearance is found, it can easily be added to the list of appearances, or swapped out as being the Earliest Known Appearance. Citing a season as the first time a sketch appears is not sufficient. Mostly this is due to particular claims of a contributor that "Ernie looked this way is Season xx." That sort of speculation is obviously not conclusive. This dialogue is encouraged on talk pages so that an episode number may be found, but the articles themselves must be supplied with irrefutable proof of date of origin. The best way this can be done is with an episode number so that the information can be double-checked.

An episode page must exist in order to cite it as an EKA. (no redlinked EKAs)

On some sketch articles, we note that a particular segment was released on DVD. This should be done only for sketches that were released outside the context of the episode(s) they appeared in.

We don't rely on memories for information, unless a considerable consensus can be reached. See more at Muppet_Wiki:FAQ#Show_your_sources

Notability

Celebrities for whom we created pages, and those we don't. Category talk:Celebrities

I'm not sure what to do with this, but we talked quite a bit about how to handle non-Muppet Henson stuff here (CE discussion)

Every click should give a reader more information than they had before they clicked. We shouldn't have a page that simply repeats information given on the page that links to it. For example -- if a puppeteer only performed in one movie, and the only information that we have about that person is that they performed in that movie, then we don't create a separate page for that puppeteer. (The link on the movie's page already says the name of the puppeteer and the character they performed. The puppeteer's page would only have the name of the movie and the character, so it wouldn't add any extra information to what the reader already knows.)

Pages for song composers aren't necessary unless they've worked directly on Muppet/Henson/Sesame projects, they're being referenced (as in Beethoven) or their material has had a significant impact on the topics covered in the wiki (i.e. Harold Arlen). (examples of previous discussions include Talk:Falco and Talk:The Coasters)

"Through the Years" pages in Category:Character Variants are limited to significant design changes for major characters. The group consensus is that these pages are meant for major characters who have gone through a lot of changes, like Kermit, Fozzie, Miss Piggy and Gonzo. Old puppets get refurbished or remade, sometimes resulting in minor cosmetic differences that are not the result of deliberate design decisions. Costume changes and new hairdos don't count. The changes should be immediately apparent to the reader looking at the pictures on the page. There should be more than three pictures on a Character Variant page -- if there have only been one or two major changes to the look of the character, then the changes should be noted on the character's article. (See Talk:Sonny Friendly Through the Years, Talk:Hoots the Owl Through the Years, Talk:Boppity Through the Years, Category talk:Character Variants, Talk:Mokey Fraggle Through The Years)

Internet fan videos: Category talk:Internet Mentions

Notable crew

Some people who have worked on Muppet productions are notable and should have their own page on the wiki; some aren't. We want to highlight people who have made substantial creative contributions to the development of the Muppet/Henson productions. We've split the list of jobs into two basic lists, which correspond more or less to "creative" jobs vs. "technical" jobs. People with "creative" jobs should get a page on the wiki; people with "technical" jobs should not.

Here's the basic breakdown:

Yes: Writer, Director, Executive Producer, Producer, Associate Producer, Designers and Creative Supervisors in the Muppet Workshop or Creature Shop, Art Director, Production Designer, Music Coordinator, Costume Designer, Original Music, Choreographer, Puppet Wrangler. Plus anybody from the "No" list if there's anything Muppet-relevant to say about them, like an overview of their career with the Muppets, or a quote.

No: Line Producer, Associate Director, Stage Manager, Video Editor, Audio, Production Coordinator, Hair and Makeup, Technical Director, Video Engineer, Camera Operator, Tape Operator, Electrician, Lighting Board Operator, Carpenter, Props, Set Decorator, Production Assistant, Production Intern, Accounting.

That's not to say that those people aren't interesting, and this distinction is not meant to be disrespectful to people who do great and important work. It's just that there's so many people who get credits. Even a direct-to-video special has over a hundred people credited; a movie has hundreds. If we were to include a page for each person doing a "technical" job on each movie, TV show and special, then we'd end up with literally thousands of pages that have nothing but "Lighting Assistant: Muppet Treasure Island".

That being said -- if there are interesting things to say about someone on the "no" list, then a page may be appropriate. For example, Frank Biondo is a camera operator, but he has a long history with Sesame Street, he's won Emmy Awards, and he's been referenced on Elmo's World. Plus, we have a picture of him working on the show, and a quote talking about the show.

This guideline should not be used to block the creation of good and interesting pages; it's meant to discourage the creation of boring stubs based mostly on credit lists.

See the Current events discussion from January 2007, and the Category talk:Miscellaneous Crew discussion that followed. Also see Category talk:Sesame Workshop Staff for a similar discussion in January 2009.

Page titles

Capitalizing foreign language titles (CE discussion)

Initials spacing (CE discussion)

Some articles of the same name may show favor to the most prominent occurence of that name such as The Muppet Movie in contrast to The Muppet Movie (video) or The Muppet Movie (soundtrack). Another example would be Dorothy compared with Dorothy (disambiguation).

Article titles don't need to be described with additional phrases in parentheses unless they're being disambiguated from another article of the same name.

Article naming, see: Muppet Wiki:Character Naming Conventions, Muppet Wiki:Archibald's List, Muppet Wiki:Cecil the List and their associated talk pages.

Merchandise naming conventions

These are the naming conventions we've been gradually moving to for the last six months or so. There are still lots of pages that need to be cleaned up to fit this convention, so if you see counter-examples, then that doesn't mean the convention is wrong -- it just means that those are pages that should be fixed.

If the product has an official name, then it's listed under that name. The capitalization follows the spelling on the packaging. Examples: Scoot Along Slimey Rider, The Very Fashionable Miss Piggy Card Game.
For products that don't have an official name, or a page that collects several products in a gallery, the title is Show/franchise + type of product. Examples: Muppet keys, Sesame Street needlecraft kits, Fraggle Rock stationery set.
The type of product isn't capitalized, unless it includes a word that's usually capitalized. Examples: Fraggle Rock Christmas ornament, Muppet View-Master reels.
If the same type of product was made by several companies, then the company name is used in parentheses to disambiguate. Examples: Sesame Street cookie jars (Applause), Sesame Street cookie jars (Enesco). If only one company has made a certain type of product, then you don't need to disambiguate -- as in the Muppet keys example above.
Defaultsorts: The page should be listed in a category under the page title, even if it begins with the name of the show or franchise. Sesame Street Christmas Decorations shows how this works -- Bubble Blowing Elmo is listed under B; Sesame Street Christmas ornaments (Lenox) is listed under S. If the title includes parentheses or a mix of capital and lower-case, then there should be a defaultsort tag like this: {{DEFAULTSORT:Sesame Street Christmas Ornaments Lenox}}.

Wiki behavior

Edit summaries (CE discussion)

Talk pages are meant to be used as a discussion space for the community to determine the factual outcome of the corresponding article. This space doesn't lend itself well to social conversations about favorite memories, opinions or looking for merchandise. This sort of discussion is better suited for message boards (such as Muppet Central, Tough Pigs, or the comments section of fan blogs such as The Muppet Newsflash or The MuppetCast), where you can chat with other fans.

Merchandise

Merchandise dates

For the most part, books, albums, toys and other merchandise should just have a year for the release date, without a specific month or day. Release dates for most items are approximate anyway -- a Harry Potter book makes a big hoopla about a specific release date, but Sesame Street storybooks and Muppet DVDs tend to drift out into stores over a period of weeks. The source for most dates is a retail store, usually Amazon, and that just tracks the date that Amazon happened to start selling the item. So most of the time, we should just have the year of release.

The exception is for projects in the In Development category -- for those pages, a specific date can help readers know when a book/album is supposed to come out. Those dates should be sourced as much as possible -- if the date comes from Amazon, then use a ref tag with a link to the Amazon page. When a project moves from the In Development category to the regular category, the specific date should be taken out, leaving just the year.

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