I'm trying to find the full version of the 1998-99 opening of Plaza Sesamo, and from what I've seen from the later 2001 opening (video by Eric Ciscam), Plaza Sesamo en nahualt, and the Otro Rollo segment (Also the shortened opening); There was supposedly a full version of the animated sequence in which Lola and Abelardo drew and wrote the letter "L", and the number "4" respectively while Pancho drew a triangle in which the CTW Plaza Sesamo sign, (without letters) appears at the top left, the letter "L" then shoots onto the logo causing the other letters to appear, shortly, the logo moves into the center; Which unfortunately, the shortened opening cuts to where Pancho already drew the triangle..
However, It was no avail. I've looked at "Exitos Musicales", and it only had the 1997 "flower plant and painting" sequence opening (If you know what I mean by that). "A dormir" may have had that opening sequence according to a commenter on YT.
So if you know of any Plaza Sesamo videos that have the full "Triangle, L, and 4" sequence, can you direct me to one?
Gosh, I actually have no idea. I had to go look at the history of Erik J. Meijer to find out what you meant. I took that pic out in 2009, and I can't remember it at all.
My edit summary said "taking out pic in half-Pino outfit", which sounds like I was bothered by the fact that he was half in the costume, but I don't know why that would have bothered me. Most of our puppeteer pictures are shots of them performing the characters.
So I don't know, I'm sorry! I just tried to undelete the picture and couldn't get it to come back... Does it still exist on the internet somewhere?
It happened per this discussion on Talk:Pino, following a request from Sesamstraat folks to Wikia. (It was several computers ago for me, so I don't have a copy; a 300px or smaller version seems to float around, not sure if the original was larger).
True i remember that too, but now in beeld en geluid museum online they showing those themselve. I know they boycot Erik J meijer from the NOS problems on. He never got any work again on public television.
I think its ok to place the one back, Renee Menschaar rather doesnt see herself like that. Also the New pino is totally different then a really old version.. to the kids. As sesame workshop on its self doesnt have problems with showing them. WOnt you think?
I hope you can place that picture back from Erik?
There have only been a few times that somebody's written to us and asked us to take something down, and I think we have to honor our promise. It's not fair for us to say that we'll take it down, and then put it back later when we think they won't notice or care. Even seven years later, it's not the right thing to do.
I agree that that page needs a picture, though -- are there any pics of him that don't have him in the costume?
i thought that it was renee menschaar's personal problem they had with her picture.. not erik's. As i remember it well, because the net is full of ieniemienies and tommies being performed. Not with Renee's
1 his name is common and he never is on pictures on his known sites.. only from behind. Also he is badly boycotted by the studios in holland due to his arguments in the 80's with the network (Dutch tv is weird and kinda maffia like that)
2 I also have an imige from him behind as cameraman/ filmproducer in his current job. But await his response before adding him.
Just heared Vila Sesamo stoped. They send Garibaldo back to Sesame Street Workshop. The last episode was shot last friday. But they will revive with a new version called Sesame. The pink monster muppet, abby, cookie, grover and elmo will be the only muppets.
How should we insert the change? As a complete new version?
Oh, that's interesting. When are they planning to start the new version?
Right now, it could be either part of the Vila Sesamo page or a new page, depending on how much information you have. If the new show is really different, then it should have its own page. We're currently using "Sesame" as a redirect to the Sesame Street article, which I think is the right thing to do. But we could call the new article Sesame (Brazil)...
I don't know much, but it seems like Sesame Workshop is consolidating their Latin American properties under one umbrella title - "Sesamo." The Plaza Sesamo social media accounts (Facebook, Instagram, YouTube) have already changed their names to "Sesamo."
BugsFan17 was asking about this on the Forum -- Thread:226045. He's got a little pic of the new logo. Come join in over there -- I'd like to see if we can collect some sources for updating the article.
I wasn't sure who to report this to, but there's been an issue with the Search function (even before thew new one): nothing turns up when I try to search for "I'm" or "I'll" or "I'd," basically anything where the apostrophe immediately follows the first letter.
can i add the history of the whitman also on that catagory.. they started as whitman in 1916 but in 1981 mattel bought them over. Also the other names like golden where used to make a difference in puzzles is what i learned. I think the line had a different name for diffwerent kind of puzzles. Whitman was specialized in paperboard puzzleds and cards and merched into western publishing (books only at that time)
The Western/Whitman/Golden thing is confusing, but this is what I understand: Western was founded in 1910, and it purchased a company called Hamming-Whitman in 1916. Western operated Whitman as a subsidiary company.
Western didn't actually publish much under the name "Western Publishing" -- they used imprints, subsidiaries and partnerships for most of their products. Little Golden Books like Ernie's Work of Art were published by "Golden Press", and Western's comics were published as "Dell Comics".
Western/Whitman was sold to Mattel in 1979, but only for four years -- Mattel sold it as an independent company in 1983. At that point, a lot of products that were being sold as Whitman were continued as Golden Books/Golden Press. So Grover's Own Alphabet was published as Whitman in 1979, and reprinted as a Little Golden Book in 1982. The magic slates and the puzzles were also continued as Golden, and then as Merrigold Press, and then Golden again.
So -- totally confusing. I should update that Western Publishing page some more.
Nitpick: Western partnered with Dell Comics for nearly twenty five years, but they were separate (it was Dell Publishing's comics arm, and under the agreement Dell exclusively handled the properties licensed by Western). *Then* Western launched their own Gold Key label, and later reprinted comics from that and the Dell era as Whitman Comics. And so the maze continues to confuse.