I'm pretty sure the Oz thing was just a passing resemblance (all bespectacled, moustachioed men tend to look alike when being strangled by giant plants). But this one is amusing and astonishing. You know how we've found credits for the Fisher-Price DC book and tape sets full of Sesame connections.
Well, I was wondering if the audio cassette that came with the original Fisher-Price player also had a cast list anywhere. Probably not, although I'm still checking on that. But here's a YouTube link:
I wondered when the announcer/narrator introduced "Christina" and "Jonathan." Christina and Jonathan Frith are Michael Frith's kids and both worked on the DC tapes, although Christina was playing adult roles by then, and there was a two year gap, so either she aged enough, or Frith wrote the script and just used his kids names (Christina sounds here like she's trying to sound younger, doing a little girl voice, so she may have already been a teen or older). But I think it's Frith narrating (I compared with the DC Wonder Woman tape here, and I actually have the Superman one, so I'll pop it in and compare). But then he introduces special guest "The Sound Man" which is unquestionably Fred Newman. So that supports my theory that Fisher-Price had Frith and Chris Cerf overseeing their audio "drama" division at the time, as it were. I'm still checking!
Hey, Scott! I'm a little confused. For the record, you can compare the earlier edits here. Basically your change just deleted one conversation. Do you think we should dump it? (It was the previous user before me who wanted to label conversations by years and that had already been fixed).
Yeah, you reverted my change, which was from March 12, 2012, which had been to undo user Tycio's earlier change's. Here's what happened when you edited. I think it may be a glitch where it showed that page as being his most recent edit or whatever and you did an automatic revert, but that problem was over a year old and already fixed. Your edit just removed two comments from the top.
It wouldn't have been an edit conflict. My edit was from a year ago. Somehow you didn't see it or whatever Wikia thingummy was used didn't display it. So did you want to just lose the posts deleted in your edit (I guess it reverted to October 17, 2009 since that's the only version yours matches] or reinsert? Also may want to pass on the issue to someone. In short, there was no last change to revert since March, but I have occasionally had a weird sidebard claim "Recent pages/edits" which are months old or whatever, so I'm wondering if that's part of the issue or glitch.
Hi, how are you ? I 'm looking forever for 70s-80s PBS/Noggin Sesame Street episodes and Electric Company ones too ? I also met Heather Henson . She was so nice . I'm a diehard Muppets fan . write firstname.lastname@example.org
Hi Scarecroe, I need help with something. This is what I need help with. http://muppet.wiki.com/wiki/Sesamstraat_Thema. I had to remove the link to one of the Sesamstraat theme songs because it said this message: This video is unavailable. Sorry About That. That means it is a Deleted Video. The link is still there, but I want that link to be removed.
Hey, Scott! I'm about to go ahead and move The Floating Face back to Limbo, since a scan of one of the Mike Douglas show scripts shows he was actually named Limbo, and that it was also used to label those specific skits (so Limbo was not some lost standalone skit). However, trying to go through the Wiki history, I can't quite figure out why you moved it to begin with, or rather what the source was. Was it actual dialogue in one of The Mike Douglas Show bits? Text apparently written by you refers to Henson naming the character as "the Floating Face," but we have the script now, and Karen Falk when writing on Redbook consistently uses Limbo for the character. We know he had other names, "Nobody" for the Sesame bit and a recent entry revealing details about a Mad Mad World pilot said that script (from 1962, so pre-Mike Douglas) called him "Line Face." But nobody except us online originally used "The Floating Face" and now others copy us.
It was from the mouth of Jim Henson, actually. In an interview on a talk show in which a piece with the character was about to be performed he says, "we call him the floating face."
The "Limbo" name comes from Karen Falk who told Danny and I in person that there was a sketch they used to to by this name based on the way the set was built. Limbo apparently means something about performing against a black screen in a way that's different from Bunraku.
Aha. Yeah, I knew about the other Limbo meaning (which we've seen applied to Sesame Street skits with black or blue backgrounds and no real clear sense of space), but the Juhl script here calls the character himself Limbo. It is pretty clear they tended to vary what they called him (in The Muppets on Puppets, he doesn't call him anything at all, just "this character" or "this puppet"), but Limbo pops up most consistently.
We have "Line Face" used in 1962, so if the talk show you mention was pre-Mike Douglas, it would line up with that. If it *was* Mike Douglas, then it was more likely because it's an easier and more practical label to explain to the audience, but it's not what Jerry Juhl used in his scripts (and in the past we've decided what to use when we have multiple choices; often we go with on-screen dialogue when it's clearly used as a name, but in a case like this, I still can't help feeling that the script trumps it, since it's the closest to a consisten name for something that they tended to vary each time, and was from the main period when he had a consistent personality, the deep-voiced anxiety-riddled inner-mind reflecting modernity; one could do an academic paper on those bits alone!)
I just watched the footage again. Jim refers to it twice as a "floating face" but it's pretty clear that he's being descriptive and not using a name for it. The way Jerry uses Limbo in the script is much more definitive and absolutely trumps Jim's reference. So, Limbo it is!
Yay! Also, "I Know Who I Am" is the only one of those bits I haven't seen at least some of, and I like the insecurity in the script. I suppose to be really geeky we could say another name is "John Smith," but that feels more like part of a monologue *performed* by Limbo (like when Rowlf plays Sherlock Holmes in one skit).
It's interesting how these early Muppet talk/variety show skits contrast the chaotic early "morbid" (as one journal put it) Muppets, with the explosions and eating, and then the Limbo stuff, which really *is* exploring something deeper. And then eventually went another direction entirely with The Muppet Show.
By the way, I don't know if you'd seen this on Talk:The Floating Face, some time back (I'll probably merge the talk pages later). It was Caroll Spinney doing much the same concept on a Bozo episode! (Although without the philosophy and for more basic novelty value). Not sure if he'd seen any of the Limbo bits by then or, as is equally likely, he just developed a similar concept on his own. I never found a way to work it into anybody's article, but it was too similar not to note here for the record.
Hey, Scarecroe, I just need a little advice on how to upload pictures because I'm planning on uploading those goof pictures for the Muppet Show Goofs page. I'm just wondering how you do it yourself? Thanks.
Hi, Chris. When you edit a page, there's a button to add an image to the article. If you place the cursor where you want the picture to go and then click the button to upload, it should go where you want it.
Yeah, I know that, but how do you upload a picture if it's taken from a Blu-Ray/DVD disc or a YouTube video so it's ready to be uploaded on Muppet Wiki. I recently uploaded a picture from the Peter Ustinov episode, but it didn't turn out too well. So, it's that type of uploading that I'm referring to.
Here's a technique I usually use; When you come to the moment you want to capture, pause and click the PrntScrn key on your keyboard. Then, go into a image program like Photoshop (as Scott suggested) or MS Paint, and select paste. Hope that helps ;)
Just on the general subject of image programs, what I use personally is Irfanview. It's very basic but does allow for general cropping, resizing, degree rotation, and so on, I've found it very easy to paste "Print Scrn" grabs on to it and then crop out the rest, and I've found it works well in conjunction with MSPaint when I'm trying something more complex (I save the MSPaint collage or trimming, say to remove stains or text from a book scan, then resize in Irfanview). Photoshop is better, sure, but Irfanview is free and I've found it very user friendly (but it always depends on what works best for you).