Hey, Scott! I sent you an e-mail about it, and I know you're dealing with the Darwin mess. But when you get a chance, could you weigh in on this thread?
Really, it's a pretty clear consensus so far against the excessive images of discs, every single menu, back covers, and others unless there's something really noteworthy about them which we can easily explain on the page. Wendy has one proposal, moving these to subpages, but if we have to do that, I'd rather do one page ala Character images with a blank background so it doesn't falsely inflate our page count with a lot of cruft (and to me, that's all "Wembley is on a blue disc and menu" images or sentences are).
Yeah, I know we'd talked about it before, mostly on individual user pages and I think on current events, but I had trouble finding more than one thread myself. And it's reached the point where I think the only way to solve it is to write a hard policy down (with the caveat that anything where you can demonstrate notability is fine, but it *has* to be proven) and add it to Muppet Wiki:Policies and Guidelines.
Yeah. I do hope "Hit That Crazy" or anything like it doesn't end up in the final book, and then we have edit wars with people because the book said so. It would be nice if it actually managed to solve longstanding mysteries like, say, the performer of Astoria, but I'm not too sanguine.
And I added one we overlooked from The Flip Wilson Show. A Redbook newspaper clipping here specifically calls it a "sketch about drunks at a bar." Sadly it was cut for TV Land and subsequent TV airings and the same applied to the DVDs (which butcher the show down to half an hour, so while the specific episodes have been airing recently on one of those MeTV-style channels, they're missing a good bit of Muppet goodness).
Flip is added! I need to find the date for the Traveling Matt one again (I've had it in my Muppet folder for ages). I wasn't sure if the Gerd Duwner one fit or could be an "Honorable Mention." Since it's not official, but I like that he wanted to share his booze with Ernie. Those sociable if imbibing Germans!
Which reminded me I completely forgot about this:
From the German version of the first episode's postcard. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the only one to have Uncle Matt wander into a tavern or pass people drinking. I also forgot about this, for the smoking page.
Sadly, my German episodes are on my still inactive (hopefully not defunct) external back-up drive. It stopped connecting, since it used one of those old pronged connectors, and both the tines and the holes in the drive seem to be crumbled a bit. I haven't been able to find anyone to fix it, and lacked funds to do so anyway, but I did get forty-five dollars, first income since May, so I'm crossing toes that someone can just swap out the connection port without having to replace the whole shell, *and* that everything is still safe. Tons of Euro Muppet stuff, some Sesame English, assorted PDFs (vital to Muppet research plus my old-time radio stuff), lots of documents and logs...
They cut opening shots of the actual tavern and at least one or two patrons I think, and the dub isn't an attempt to actually translate the original. I checked with Julian: in the German version, Matt thinks it's a "greeting ritual" (which actually makes more sense as far as his involvement). It's actually a Bavarian sport called fingerhakeln!
I'd hoped to find the first episode on YouTube, but here's the original German of the TV postcard (from "Wembley and the Gorgs.") Starts at 1:41 or so, in case the time-specification doesn't work.
I've grown to enjoy the voice of Onkel Matt, even when I don't know what he's saying. Original German credits in end clip too! (Voice actors unbilled, but almost everyone else is acknowledged, from the German puppeteers to the set decorators, dubbing director, production facility, etc.) German-produced Matt spots can be spotted right away if he's wearing that Tyrolean hat (I don't know if I ever worked that fact into his page or anywhere else; if not, I should).
Hey! I'm glad you screengrabbed that! In October, I noticed we'd fallen behind in capturing Sesame folk on Law & Order. It was actually Sonia Manzano's second appearance in the same role (they introduced her last season) so I'm hoping maybe she'll be a sporadically recurring judge.
Also from SVU, I just added Jennifer Barnhart as a detective. The second half of this year's season premiere (designed with two different titles and stand-alone credits for easier division in syndication, which I'm surprised more shows don't do, but only sold via iTunes etc. as both) opens with a bit involving those fake walk-around versions of cartoon characters, superheroes, and Muppets--- nothing identifiable of course for legal reasons, but there's one called "Mo-Mo" (a general furry guy, not sure how muppety he looks) played by Rick Lyon! He's a witness and apparently briefly glimpsed with the suit head off!
We're also missing Alison Bartlett (a Season 13 episode), Tyler Bunch (apparently the season 14 finale), and probably others. Just more to look forward to or keep an eye out for.
For the last two seasons, at first I thought it was just digital streaming or download via Huluplus, Amazon, iTunes, etc. (Netflix instant only goes up to season 12). But nope, Amazon has DVDs listed for seasons 13 and 14 (14 came out last week of September, right before the season premiere). Going out in a moment but I may just put gallery placeholders (by now I've mostly stopped doing that for this kind of thing, but in this case, it would make it easier to specify what we're looking for by episode title, character name, and just leaves plugging in the pic when found).
Where did you get the logoless screenshot for the "Oscar's Bus Stop" SS skit? Do you have access to a logoless copy, or did you photoshop the logo off the (undownloadable) video streaming on the SS site.
Hey, do you know why the Facebook box is showing on the top of the rail now? I see that a Wikia engineer changed something last month, but I didn't see it change until today, when you fixed the code.
Do we have to have it on top? I know that we want readers to see it, but it's not more important than the Recent Wiki Activity box. I don't really care whether it interferes with the floating ad or not; that's their problem.
I really think we should. When I first added the box, I saw a huge spike in followers (as many as 100 to 300 new followers per day). And the numbers kept up for months. But I recently realized we were back to only getting a couple of new followers a day. I hadn't noticed it, but a change in code made our FB box go away. So it's clearly pretty important.
Now, at the time the custom code was written, I was hoping to get Echoblast53 to make it show up on top because I wasn't crazy about the fact that it was hidden way down at the bottom. (Especially below the Video and Chat feeds which are just another ad placement and only for editors, respectively.) The current code mends that.
And I think it's another important distinction for readers vs editors. We tried for years to turn readers into editors, but I'm not sure we quite figured out why some people just don't like the idea of editing a wiki. Some ideas worked better than others, but to be honest, I don't think having a Recent Changes box with four links on it that don't show you recent changes is going to help.
But I recognize that it's valuable for existing editors. And I can make sure that it's hidden for those who want to opt out of it, just like we did with the gallery button.
Plus there's the obvious benefit of having more people connected to the wiki in a different capacity on Facebook. Engaging people in content and driving traffic to the wiki to show off our wares is a pretty proud moment for us.
I feel kind of protective about the Recent Wiki Activity box, because it gets a lot of clicks, especially from logged-in people. It's helpful for editors, but it's also the only way to show off the most current and updated content. Obviously, at any given moment it's pretty random, but on a day when the new movie trailer is released, then the Muppets Most Wanted page is going to show up in the Wiki Activity box a lot.
That being said -- having it second from the top is fine, and you're absolutely right that the Facebook promotion is valuable. I was annoyed because I saw the note from the Wikia engineer about moving it because it conflicted with the floating ad; I didn't realize you had plans and dreams around it. :)
I would like to hide it for myself, because I already like us, and I use the Wiki Activity box a lot. Can you hook me up?