Sorry if I've already asked this, but where does this come from? It's not in my script for Episode 1505 and a search for my OCR'ed files don't find a match (which could just mean they didn't OCR properly).
Is your script the final aired version? It's either that or the CTW doc is wrong (the other formatted ones say the rundown they list is libel to change, so the CTW stuff isn't 100% gospel in some cases).
Ah, right. That looks familiar, so we probably did talk about this (I'm losing my mind in my old age).
Yeah, my script for 1505 says "Final Aired Version". That could be wrong too, though. As we know, some of those CTW archive documents were written by third party individuals watching final episodes, and it could have been a late addition. I was hoping to find it in a later script, but either it was never repeated or my OCR isn't picking it up because it was handwritten or otherwise malformed text.
I should point out that Starship Surprise was discussed at Talk: Starship Surprise, where it's said that the 40th anniversary book cites it as airing in season 15 (which could be wrong, or maybe it was produced around season 12 but didn't air until then... or, since it said it "airs in season 15", that could just mean it was broadcast then but not neccesarrily premiered then).
In fact some time ago (and I can't remember where) somebody posted a behind-the-scenes image from that segment. I think I saw Michael Earl and Karen Prell in that image, which would place it as premiering in season 11 or 12, but I can't find the image now.
I remember seeing a Facebook post a few years ago from someone (probably Cheryl Blaylock) honoring Michael Earl, and it included that image as one of several behind-the-scenes photos of him performing.
Looks like it might have come from Michael Earl, but I couldn't find it in any of his social media feeds. And sadly it's too late to ask him.
I thought about that.
I also wonder if we could ask Brian Meehl (he has his own website, and he has been known to answer friends questions before - he answered somebody's (can't remember if it was you or not) question about Bob Payne originating Telly and he responded to an e-mail I sent shortly after regarding Elmo's origins), though he's not pictured (but he was one of the very few performers who worked on a daily basis during Michael Earl's time on the show), or Karen Prell, who I recall having an official site though I'm not sure whether she still has it (or if she reponds to fan e-mails), I think that's the woman in the photo.
I just thought of a possibility. I know there are some episodes that had segments replaced in later PBS airings. It happened with the "Slimey goes to the moon" arc and the hurricane episodes. And I've been informed in other posts recently that some of the scripts being looked at were actually transcribed from episodes as opposed to being the original script.
Could it be possible that Starship Surprise originally did air but got replaced in a later rerun? Don't know how likely they would have replaced a segment in a rerun on PBS, especially for that season, but we know that it did happen a few times, without them replacing the episode numbers. If it was rerun that way and transcribed, they might have looked at an altered copy (I've seen that they have digital copies of every episode, I'd like to assume that includes original airings of anything altered but you never know), making it literally a "final aired version". Or another possibility: it originally wasn't included but was added to a rerun (though I think the program guides would have been typed up for the original airings).
I was just looking at some of the CTW Archives Script Highlights scans (after seeing a guide for a season 11 episode from trusted sources I decided to compare the script highlight to see whether I was right in what I suspected, that the season 11 guides were full segment rundowns, albeit with many generic descriptions; the episode does have a few segments that clearly aren't in the rundown, while the rundown lists "bus (four segments)" when there's only two bus segments, but that's besides the point).
Anyway, as I was looking, I noticed small text on the pages for the Tuesday-Friday shows at the very bottom, which I hadn't noticed until tonight. The text says “Printing deadlines for Sesame Street Script Highlights precedes the final editing of the programs. For that reason, an occasional segment listed may not be included or may appear in a different location in the broadcast.” It's readible in the scans, though difficult (the website that originally had the scans has the capacity of zooming in, which helps read it better).
It's not in the season 12 script highlights, and I checked a few script highlights for earlier seasons (which use a style closer to the season 11 script highlights), and such a note isn't on those, but I guess that would apply to program guides for other seasons. So it's possible the segment was in the episode before the final edit and noted in the program guide only to not make it to the final edit.
Heya! Re: this... my script for Episode 0989 lists "Pinball Anim F" which is obviously a typo for some number. But our current guide (which comes from the CTW Archives) confirms #7. Did I miss something?
Wouldn't it have to be 7 considering that's what the episode's numerical sponsor is, at least according to the University of Maryland stuff? The user who added the Pinball segment to the page assumed that the #7 made its debut in this because of the sponsor, since the special only listed a date and not for a specific version of the series.
I noticed that you (and a few others) updated the page for Episode 0441 today. I just wanted to let you know that it appears that it contains all five of a series of live-action stop-motion films which were featured on the show in the 1970's and demonstrated 'beginning' and 'end.' Just wondering if you personally remember those clips. Thanks in advance.
The other episode came from YouTube with no number, and no end credits to put a date to it. The only thing I can say is that the Kermit / Herry bit is from season 16, so that's the starting point. The user also uploaded an incomplete version of Episode 2090, also from season 16, so the mystery episode just be from that season.
The only thing I can say is that the Kermit / Herry bit is from season 16, so that's the starting point.
What's your source for that? Do some of the trusted sources mention it as a season 16 segment, because I've never seen any official sources cite a season for it (I assumed it was a few years earlier, but again, that's just an assumtion), and the eka is a season 18 episode.
I know you told me before that the scripts indicate if they premiered in that episode, I kinda didn't realize they listed what seasons they're from (though I thought I've seen scans of a script that did, and the original Episode 1257 script, as seen on the talk page, does list episode numbers with the inserts).
I guess the eka just needs to be changed on the proper pages (if they haven't by the time I posted this response).