I'm getting MuppetDude's incomplete copy of Episode 4025 soon. Yes, he has officially confirmed it with me that he is indeed sending the episode. Can you please inbox me your email address on the MC Forums so I can send it to you via iCloud? My name on the MC Forums is mariolover.
Since I'm not great at making guides, I will send the episode to Oscarfan via iCloud and have him do all the work. (I just thought of a better idea, MEGA.) I will PM him the link to the episode through MEGA.
Heya! Do you know where we got the dates and/or seasons for the episodes in Category:Incomplete Sesame Guides? I might be able to track those down, but I don't want to end up on a wild goose chase looking for an episode in a particular season if its way off. Would it be possible to narrow the field for any of them a bit, or are those already our best guesses?
Ah, I found one of them: Sandbox:Sing Along is Episode 2443 in Season 19 (not 18 as is noted in the infobox). I'm not sure what the Season 20 info means. Should I move the page to Episode 2443 or do we know for sure it was repeated later?
Most of them are based off the copyright dates shown at the end of the show. Some others are based on what the shows did or had at the time - Sandbox:Oscar's Groucheteria does the thing where the "CTW" logo is shown over a still from the episode, which was only done during Season 15. A different example is Sandbox:Leo's Street Party, which is based off the copyright date for the original song used in the show.
As for the "Sing Along" episode, that was something Tony had corrected me on when he saw it. I don't know how he would've known, but if you have a trusted source saying otherwise, then by all means, move it.
I was gonna say something about that. I don't think we need it; the tag says the guide was built from a specific source, when all it was used for was confirming the ep. number, not anything specific in the episode.
I had been wondering about incomplete guides that just didn't have screen grabs, didn't realize they were on YouTube (maybe I assumed that if they were the images would have been there). Might be good for future incomplete guides that are on YouTube to link to that.
I've also wondered about incomplete guides that are clearly missing the beginning (including the episode number) but have pages with the proper number listed. Can't remember off-hand what numbers or what happens in them. Only thing I can think of would be if people checked season talk pages that have descriptions by redlinked episodes.
Understood. Good to have confirmation. The three remaining in Category:Incomplete Sesame Guides (Big Bird the Grouch, Cowboy Telly, Fix-It Shop Observing) are beyond what I have available to me at this time.
I think that's all I have too in terms of incomplete / unconfirmed episodes. There might be a couple more on the internet somewhere and I'll re-check some discs I've gotten from Tony, but I'm pretty sure I got all those.
I noticed that you deleted my edit on the Mimsy page and I was wondering why you deleted it. Here is a link to the episode the Mimsy was used as elmo’s mom: https://youtu.be/OeVp9S1HzqI If I messed something up please tell me and I will remove my edit
Heya! I know you're not the originator of the NHK guides, but do you know if they're stored online anywhere? We backed up our CTW Archives stuff on the wiki; do we have the NHK stuff too? I only see a few pages on the article we link to from the guides that cite them. Like, Episode 0218, for example.
User:MasterYoshi probably has that specific episode somewhere around his subpages or one of the pages related to the guides. User:StreetScenes has all the rest of the stuff we built the guides from from the NHK guides, so you could try to contact them.
The information on "Sing" for that episode originally came from TV Guide.
Re: "Sing" w/ Big Bird - I think that information comes from the master tape of the 1980 World Puppetry Festival which is out in the ether somewhere. That footage was incorporated into Here Come the Puppets, but not the entire Muppet portion of the evening.
Heya, another "Sing" related question: do you still have your copy of Episode 4064? I have it recorded from TV, but it must be a later re-run or (as was common) got cut off at the beginning. On our page for My Favorite Sesame Street Moments, we say that Elizabeth Shehane talks about Bob singing "Sing" and I'm wondering if they show any footage, and if it's just solo Bob, or one of the other instances with someone else we've already noted on the "Sing" article.
Another "Sing" related question: where would I find the docs that were used to create Episode 0425; are they on our talk page for the CTW Archives? I have to admit that the way we put some of those together was a bit of a mystery to me.
My source says "Sing" was Luis and David in that episode, but our page says Luis and Gordon.
If you can, that would be great. Also, it's my understanding that those guides were built from viewing completed episodes, is that right? If so, it probably trumps my source as it comes from before the filming process. So, they could have intended it to be David, but swapped him on the day with Gordon. Still, curious to see how the original source worded it just to be sure.
Just FYI, I'm doing the Episode 0425 guide next and I'm going to throw out ERIC.ed.gov's claim that "Sing" was done by Luis and Gordon in that episode, and say it was Luis and David using my source. The document from ERIC.ed.gov was written by an independent review board who seems to have mistaken one for the other. Which is a bit ironic considering the critique was made for the sole purpose of pointing out gender and minority imbalances.
Wow, that's a weird edit history. We must have had the edit window open at the same time, but when I saved the page, I didn't get the usual edit conflict error, it just added my addition to the bottom of the page.
I saw that too. All the credits are the same between that and the Numbers game, so it's possible it's for a number segment he did and he just happened to make some letter ones too that weren't on that game.
Latest guide: Episode 2253. The way some of those Street Scenes play out, we could probably split them out into multiples with "cont'd" cells when we get screenshots someday. Or now, if you think that's a good idea.
Latest: Episode 0273. There were some differences between what we had on the page from the NHK guides and the CTW archives. I used my document for the full guide, so it will be interesting — if the episode ever shows up — to look at the history and see where the discrepancies lie.
I thought of something. Are any of your guides for classic episodes that were released on iTunes? It could be great to check and see if anything was cut on the iTunes releases. Ditto for any episodes released on the Old School releases (again, if you have rundowns), in case there was anything cut from both DVD and Noggin.
Or... Fernandez was released to the press, but she'd already been replaced by Battle. Either way, it's probably the same segment. It's unlikely (but not impossible) that Placido and Grungetta appeared in two separate segments with a big opera star that season.