Hi! A few more notes. One, please let administrators do their job. If we had a problem with The Muppet Movie Blu-Ray Giveaway thread, you would have noticed. Wikia set up an official give away, prizes supplied by Wikia, and mentioned it in an appropriate place on the forums. It's not spam to be complained about. If they'd inserted it into The Muppet Movie article, it would be spam and we'd have moved it. As is, it's no different from some of the "Who is your favorite Muppet?" threads other people started, which we don't allow on talk pages for articles but on the forum, that's fine, except here there's a prize involved and it helps bring attention to the Wiki and the upcoming release. They established clear rules and guidelines for it too to prevent things getting out of hand. If you don't like it, that's fine, you don't have to participate.
Also, you don't need to leave messages for blocked users either. Again, that's for admins, and with persistent users whose whole point is they *want* to annoy us, they get gratification from acknowledgement. So please don't mess with that either. Your enthusiasm is appreciated, but again, if something is a problem, leave it to the admins, or if it really bothers you, tell an admin first, and they'll say either "Thanks for catching that, I'll handle it" or "It's fine, no violation of rules." Please keep this in mind for the future. Thanks!
It's not even a matter of "letting" really, since they are our host after all. They're letting *us* use their software, space, promotion, etc. In return we do have to put up with stuff, like ads, but this isn't even like that since it's actually fun and relevant to us. And the whole point too, which I think you missed, was to get people to register as users (Muppet Wiki is one of the handful which has a rule that only registered users can post), so this encourages new editors and thus helps Muppet Wiki. I can see how it would throw you at first sight, but again, let the administrators handle this stuff. Thanks.
Hi! The forums aren't really the place to discuss a user's activity on other wikis or websites. It's not a public conversation topic. If you want to discuss anything of that kind with a specific user, their talk page or e-mail is the best place, but there isn't really a lot of profit in creating forum threads to note what you've found out about other users. It can be a little unsettling even. Thanks!
Oh uh, thanks for letting me know that. I googled it and found it about it. In that case, forums are used for questions if you don't know what actually appears in but you know the name of the character puppet.
Hi, thanks again for fixing some of the darker images on the wiki. I think your screen might be a little dark though, as some of the new versions you're uploading are too saturated or washed out. Also, when uploading new images, please name the file appropriately. Random strings of numbers and letters are not as useful as a descriptive name. Thanks!
I wanted to improve the images to look like Julians uploads. Also, those names are named by vlc media player when I take a screenshot using the program and I only have full-screen in the NTSC version of the film; it's best to ask Julian to replace the full-screen images with the widescreen ones. I'm sure he has widescreen photos of the movie. Anyway, I have a brighter default screen.
Hi! When we have a list page like Recycled Puppets, we don't usually have a category as well, in most cases. I'm going to undo it for now, but feel free to start a discussion at Talk:Recycled Puppets and explain why you think a category is needed in this case (one of the reasons not in this case is that it would be too large, which normally is a reason *for* a category, plus there are also many cases where the pattern is reused but not the original puppet, or where we're not even sure which is which). Thanks!
It's mostly just that in cases like this, where category creation results in major significant changes to a vast number of pages, we encourage discussion first. Like I said, feel free to bring it up on the talk page and see how others feel. We've had discussions of this in the past (see Category talk:Robots; we've kept it as just a list, Robots). You might want to look at Muppet Wiki:Policies and Guidelines and some other policy pages in Category:Muppet Wiki.
For similar reasons, I reverted your edit to Audio Commentaries (although on closer look, the Hidden Treasures screengrab can probably stay so I'm glad you fixed that). It relates partly to our policy on song lyrics, which is a few bullet points down ("Posting the full lyrics to a song isn't allowed on the wiki; it's considered a violation of the songwriter's copyright, and that's a violation that is enforced more often than images or other potential violations") but also an issue with oggs in general, we try to keep those to a minimum to demonstrate something specific, not just "Hey, the music or dialogue from this is neat."
A lot of this sort of thing was covered in old discussions before you joined the Wiki, and some we forgot to recopy to the policy page (that's our fault; I know we did recopy the category rule but even I can't find it right now, so we probably need to reorganize some of that).
Finally, we're going to have to fix or revert your changes to Fraggles. This is in fact a rule we never stated because we assumed it was obvious: Muppet relevance. In other words, design aspects used in other cartoons like Adventure Time and so on are not relevant to the Muppet design process. It didn't influence the Fraggles, so it has to be omitted. It's a coincidence at best (and a stretch with things like Planet 52; Fraggles aren't noseless, they just have snouts instead of specific rounded noses, compared to the aliens).
That's a lot of stuff to tell a new editor, I know (and I need to leave now to see my mom in hospital) but please don't let it discourage you, you've also helped us fill in some blanks, so we appreciate it! If you still have questions or need help figuring out policies, feel free to ask one of the other Admins (third point on the page).
I've compared those noses to the other characters and I understand they aren't in the franchise. But I can tell you some of the characters from their universes were recycled as different characters for different franchises and some of them like the puppets in the muppets were. Sorry for posting un-muppeted characters for resemblance. I didn't want to use false information and compare it to other characters that don't have those kinds of noses for each fraggle.
Also, I don't want to waste time talking here. I found the article of recycled characters on the character wiki which was posted by Peggy Sue which was from another planet called Planet 51. That wiki has resources of recycled characters including puppets on that wiki so it can describe them and how they were used.