Hey Brad! I've noticed that a lot of your edits lately are duplicating the categories on an article. I assume it has something to do with the WYSIWYG editor, and I've sent a ticket in to support to figure it out, but they don't know what it is. It's probably happening for others too, but since it's most consistently happening with you, I asked them to contact you to troubleshoot it. I get the sense they haven't done that though, so I'm wondering if you changed a setting in your preferences over the past month or so, or started doing something differently. Any ideas?
I had noticed that was happening from time to time. No one has reached out to me about it. However after seeing your message and thinking about it, I think I figured out the cause.
I recently turned on "prompt me if I leave a blank edit summary" preference. I just did some tests to prove it and when I press "publish" without including an edit summary it bounces me back to editing the page with the message "Reminder: You have not provided an edit summary. If you click Publish again, your edit will be published without one." However, when it bounces me back to editing, it adds the category tags at the bottom of the section I was editing (causing dual tags on the page if I don't catch it and remove them before hitting publish the second time).
Terribly sad and tragic news, it's the least I could do - I figured there would be an increase of traffic to his page and our coverage needed some work. There's not much out there about John.
There are some nice passages and quotes in Jim Henson: The Biography that I thought about trying to incorporate -- quotes about his energetic childhood (pg 189), convincing his father to go with Bowie instead of Sting for Labyrinth (pg 369-370), his reaction to seeing his father film the "Rainbow Connection" scene and then being brought to tears seeing the final sequence on the screen (pgs 286 & 293), and some more personal events (such as his car accident that brought the production of The Witches to a halt and his role in the spreading of Jim's ashes)... but I wasn't sure how to make them work in the article. Maybe someone else can try working the information in.
Hey Brad! Thanks for finding where that Sigourney Weaver image came from. The person who uploaded it here said he got it from a tumblr, and a Google image search brought me no results, so thank you for digging deeper ;)
It's come to my attention that some of your recent contributions to the wiki have been taken directly from other sources without quoting/citing or rewriting.
Can you go over your edits in the past few weeks and clean some of that up? Otherwise, I'm going to have to go through and start reverting, and I don't want to have to do that.
The Redbook and Jones biography are amazing, but we need to make sure we're not plagiarizing. Some of the people who put those resources together read our wiki all the time, and it's embarrassing for us to have to get pinged on it.
As you know, this is a long-standing policy on the wiki, and we expect everyone to adhere to it. We can't let little slip-ups like this happen. We've gotta remember to do it.
Is that something you can look at soon? Please respond here so I know you know what's up.
Hi, Scott. I really thought I was doing my best to cite, quote and rewrite everything I've added recently. I haven't "copy-and-pasted" text or transcribed passages, and I thought I had been using <ref> tags for any facts and quotes that I got from books or other websites (I want people like Jones and Falk to get credit for their amazing work and readers here to know where any facts or quotes come from). I have been using the Red Book and Jones' biography as a source a lot lately, but I never intended to take anything directly from them and have always cited when I got info from them. I'll look through my edit history but can you give me an example of what/where I may have crossed the line and should clean up? I'll gladly do it. Thanks.
"Henson's idea was to sink a custom-made diving bell into the tank, lower himself inside, then perform Kermit up on the surface by sticking his arm up through a rubber sleeve in the top of the diving belt."
You cited a reference later in the paragraph, but the text (which is a direct lift from The Biography) isn't in quotes.
1) If we're quoting from a book, we need to use quotes, and cite the reference immediately following.
2) If we're assimilating information into an article that we found somewhere else (and not directly quoting), we still need to cite a reference, and re-write the text so that it isn't a copy.
I've really been trying to cite everything (whether a direct quote or assimilated information) and I never intentionally sat down and transcribed sentences or paragraphs from The Biography (or other books) verbatim unless I was putting the words in quotes, but I guess certain phrases, sentences or descriptions stuck in my mind and slipped into my writing, I went through and re-worked/re-wrote the information to get any possibly offending sentences further away from the original text. Of course, I will continue to cite sources, but I'll be more careful to make sure the words I post are either direct quotes (in quotation marks) or notably different from the source's original words.
Again, I'm sorry and embarrassed, and will be more careful and diligent moving forward.
I went through my edit history for the past 3 months and reviewed any articles where I cited or referenced The Biography or the Red Book to make sure the attribution was clear and the text was either originally worded or properly quoted.
A few reminders about communication. One, remember to use edit summaries. You haven't been, so when you're making changes to pages which appear contrary to what we already agreed upon in a discussion, other users have no idea why.
Two, for that matter, it's a good idea to mention *during* discussion what you plan to change if it differs from the majority (as when you were suddenly adding more images) or from what's agreed (as just now when you went with the slideshows). The slideshows actually work pretty well, so that's not the issue, but it can become counterproductive if we don't understand what you're doing or why (again, edit summaries can be used instead if need be.)
Three, please *read* previous edit summaries. I know not all browsers look the same, but I'd taken the quotation template off of Fraggle Rock: Complete Series Collection. I explained why in the summary. It may look fine on your browser, but it has been discussed at Template talk:Quote and also in this thread. For multiple users, when the quote templates collide with images like that, they break, so we've been manually removing them. I can understand missing the discussion, but please try to read previous summaries if you wonder why something has been changed, and if you feel the need to further inquire or dispute, then of course there's talk pages and forums.
Just keeping these in mind would help communication run more smoothly and limit some of the problems which have cropped up in discussions. Thanks!
Sorry. I should have left edit summaries and followed up in the main discussion last night (I was rushing and then got distracted, but that's no excuse for sloppiness or not sharing what I was doing). I was basically just going through and organizing/sorting the single "catch-all" galleries into appropriate sub-sections (menus/packaging, edits/cuts, and re-releases) and trying to remove as few images as possible from the pages (leaving the cutting down of questionable or redundant images, such as the multiple menu images, to someone else or until after the full forum discussion had run its course).
I just went and turned the "Prompt me if I leave a blank edit summary" feature on in my preferences to help remind me to leave summaries as I realize that recently I've been guilty of forgetting them (a similar feature in my email saves me on an almost daily basis when I try to send an email without a subject line... I can be as forgetful as Forgetful Jones with that sometimes.)
I also was unaware of the quote template issues (missed the initial discussion and didn't catch it in the edit summaries), but I understand it now and will adjust accordingly. It's a shame it doesn't work or look good all the time, but it's not a critical loss to just not use it.
Heya Brad! Just wanted to put out an extended thank you for cleaning up countless pages over the past few weeks. I had been meaning to replace this weird lookin' mish-mash with a better image, and yours looks cleaner and more professional than anything I could've cooked up =)
Oh, no problem. I've had some extra time on my hands lately and have been a bit inspired after finishing up Jim Henson: The Biography to add to certain pages. I've also enjoyed playing lots of "Random Page roulette" here recently to find fun things to improve upon.