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BradFraggle

aka Brad Delaney

37,405 Edits since joining this wiki
January 3, 2006
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  • Hi there!

    Kirkburn from Wikia here. We've noticed that your edits sometimes cause category duplication (e.g. [1]), and we have an idea about what might be causing it: the 'Prompt me if I leave a blank edit summary' preference.

    Have you noticed that the duplication generally happens on edits where the prompt appears? Would you be able to test switching off the preference, then see if the issue goes away? If it does go away, knowing will help us direct our efforts around this issue.

    Thanks!

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  • [1] Nice find!

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  • Hey, Brad. Scott told me you said on the SkekOk page his loyalty was to SkekZok.  But I watched The Dark Crystal 3 days ago, and he was in SkekUng's alliance.  Am I right?
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    • Like most of the biographical details on the Skeksis, the information on their loyalties came from The World of the Dark Crystal book and the film's novelization.

      SkekOk's main loyalty lied with SkekZok the Ritual Master... although in the conflict between SkekUng and SkekSil as to who would become the next emperor, he sided with the General over the Chamberlain.

      The on-screen appearances in the film may not fully capture the more in-depth and complex backstories the filmmakers created for the characters. Perhaps it would be best just to remove the statement on their loyalties or rewrite it to clarify his loyalties in the court (to SkekZok) and his loyalties in the emperor debate (supporting SkekUng).

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    • BradFraggle wrote:
      Like most of the biographical details on the Skeksis, the information on their loyalties came from The World of the Dark Crystal book and the film's novelization.

      SkekOk's main loyalty lied with SkekZok the Ritual Master... although in the conflict between SkekUng and SkekSil as to who would become the next emperor, he sided with the General over the Chamberlain.

      The on-screen appearances in the film may not fully capture the more in-depth and complex backstories the filmmakers created for the characters. Perhaps it would be best just to remove the statement on their loyalties or rewrite it to clarify his loyalties in the court (to SkekZok) and his loyalties in the emperor debate (supporting SkekUng).

      Thanks for the clarification.

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  • Dang, son. That's a lot of guns. And yet another article I've had rattling around in my head for a long time. Thanks for getting it going!

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    • Thanks. Sadly current events prompted me to explore the Muppets' connection to guns. Hopefully the number of Muppet shootings pales in comparison to the number of Muppet kisses.

      I never realized how often the Swedish Chef used a gun while cooking until I started to compile the list.

      I know there's a quote out there from Jim Henson (either around the time of The Muppets Take Manhattan or The Jim Henson Hour) where he talks about violent cop shows on TV... but I can't find it now.

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  • re: Recurring female Muppets, it's like you're inside my head. I've been wanting to do this for ages, and a while ago, I was shot down from doing male/female categories for characters in the interest of keeping a running tally. I was just the other day thinking of doing pretty much what you've put together here, so thanks!

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    • Great minds think alike I guess... it's interesting that the Muppets (with their 900+ characters) have had less than 25 real established female characters... and only 4 or 5 of them have had any real substantial recurrence or longevity.

      As has been well documented, the Muppets have a big gender gap. I was thinking about maybe expanding the article to include some quotes and analysis about the lack of female Muppets (I think the question came up at Comic-Con or D23 and in some press for the new show...and I think some of the comicbook writers have commented on the difficulty in casting the various storybook adaptations due to lack of females to fill the roles). But I don't have the time to dig around for those quotes right now.

      At least the two recurring human cast members of The Muppets (Kim and Betty) are both girls.

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    • I'll definitely have some to add.

      By the way, if you're on Facebook, hit me up (same username as here).

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    • I started collecting quotes and whatnot here... eventually it can evolve into a fuller article. Feel free to add whatever you've got.

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    • Sweet.

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  • Hey Brad! We're discussing Bear airdates on the forum, and it was pointed out that we have them from TV Guide which you archived here. TV Guide's current site is incomplete, so I'm assuming through their own site changes, they've lost some data. I just wanted to confirm that all the dates came from them.

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    • Sorry, I just saw this now...

      Yes, all of the dates came from TV Guide's website. I pulled them off there back in late-2013 when I was starting to collect data for this page. It does look like their archival TV listings are no longer all on the website. But I can confirm that all the air dates I got came from TV Guide's original listings on tvguide.com.

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    • Sweet, thanks. I thought so, I just wanted to be sure before I started plugging them in elsewhere. Glad we got them backed up before they nuked them!

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    Hey Brad, do you know where this came from? Anthony just added it to the Kissing Muppets page.

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  • Thanks for starting this! I've been meaning to do it myself, but haven't been able to find the time.

    Also, it's striking to see the previous attempts in the See Also section, isn't it?

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    • I was somewhat surprised when I found that no one else had started one... so I bit the bullet and started the article.

      It is striking to see all the previous attempts listed out... for the first few years that they owned them, it was pretty much an annual tradition for Disney to produce a pilot presentation with the Muppets.

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  • Hey Brad, great pics in Season 46 (2015)! Can you caption them so we know who they are?

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  • I saw you made edits to Emmett Otter's Jug-Band Christmas a few years ago regarding the 1977 HBO and 1980 ABC edits. By how it's written I'm a little confused, is the list of 1980 edits mostly things that were cut (though it mentions fade-outs which would have been new alterations) or added for that broadcast? It would make sense for that to be a list of what was cut out, since the 1980 edit was on commercial television as opposed to commercial-free premium television. 

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    • The alterations to the 1980 edit were a variety of minor adjustments (mainly to fit the time slot and act-break constraints and flow). Most were tiny cuts, but some were oddly additions of alternate or extra lines; and there were other alterations like the fades to/from commercials and the closing credits. Looking at it now, the list is not clear on what changed (was it added or deleted) and I don't recall off hand which items on the list were deleted lines/scenes and which were added lines/scenes or which were just otherwise reworked/adjusted scene; but I think the DVD "alternate/deleted scenes" feature shows all these alterations for comparison.

      The original 1977 edit was 54 minutes long... the 1980 edit was 52 minutes long... the 1996 edit was 49 minutes long... and the 2005 edit is also 49 minutes long.

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    • With all these edits, I must wonder what was up with the edits on the 1996 release (and I didn't know that the 1996 and 1998 releases had the same edits). I think Muppet Central had speculated years ago that Henson made a new master tape with edits that I thought were edited for commercial time, but if that's the case, I wonder what broadcasts edited them (I assume the Odessy Channel made the same edits, but this came before Odessy). I know that Nickelodeon aired the special with at least most of the scenes that were edited from video (my copy of a Nick airing begins late, after a few of the scenes that were edited later on video, and I don't really remember those from when I was a kid, but that doesn't mean they were or weren't cut).

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