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Aleal

aka Andrew

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  • I live in El Paso, Texas
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  • delete these subpages of mine. There's no point to them.

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  • Heya! Nice start on Los Teleñecos. I wonder how far back the name goes. The earliest I know of is 1995, the year before Muppets Tonight started, for a set of trading stickers (and again for Los Teleñecos (magazine)). That product isn't likely to get its own page, but I'm curious about where else has the name been used.

    Does it have any other meaning?

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    • Ha, that's really weird. Okay, I'll move to Los Teleñecos (series), that seems like a better fit.

      It's interesting that they made a title card for Die Muppet Show, but not for the Spanish version.

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    • Yeah, the Spanish version was a straight dub (and perhaps not as closely coordinated either, who knows). One reason Disney Character Voices International is now so concerned with consistency (in voices and names, although obviously it's rubbed some folks the wrong way to get used to a new name for Kermit or Goofy or whoever from what they've used for over forty years or more).

      And here's a pic from the interview I mentioned:

      Josemartinezblanco

      They also show grainy clips of Ben Vereen on The Muppet Show (and keep calling him "Gallito George," since he played Chicken George in Roots).

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  • Hmmm... I disagree. I would be fine with deleteing all of the drama-related stuff and just stating the facts, but I guess it's your call. It is a piece of SS history. I'm not sure what you mean by "one-shots", but it is arguably a song.

    I guess it's better for the creppypasta Wiki, though I would like to know the info behind this short one day.

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    • Hi, please read the text on Category:Sesame Street Animated Segments. This is the definition: "Recurring animated segments produced for Sesame Street, as well as animated songs, Jim Henson-directed shorts, and one-shots with direct Muppet significance."

      One-shot means not a series, just used once (and by direct Muppet signifiance, The Noble Ostrich has a Big Bird cameo).

      To qualify for a song page, we need basic info like composer and official registered titles (if there's singing in it but it's not really a song, it doesn't count). That's our basic policy, because otherwise any info on stand-alone inserts can just be included in a table (the fact that there's no clear source for the title, a lot of fans call it "Crackmaster" and we wouldn't use that either, and it's otherwise "We don't know much about it but a lot of people are interested in it" is basically why it can't support its own page.)

      You could park all of the text if you like (and if you want me to retrieve it for you, I can) on say your own talk page or user page. But for an encyclopedic project, for years our policies have been to avoid pages like that. Sorry, it's a matter of tone.

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    • No problem. Thanks for explaining. :)

      The title is 'Cracks' though, as evidence by the title card.

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  • What's the deal? Why have you guys been deleting the pictures I put up? They've been on here for quite some time. Why take down the pic I posted in Annie Sue's page of her in "Muppets Most Wanted"? And what is this about an edit summary?

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    • Hi, for Annie Sue Pig, you'll have to talk to Scott, since he made the change on May 9th.

      As for other deletions, you'll see from the logs that in fact many old pictures are being deleted. It's not aimed at you, it's just a general clean-up of old clutter. We used to clean up the Unused pictures section regularly (as in every few months), but we as admins had let it slip by so recently we had more than five or six years worth. As far as I'm aware, the pictures being deleted aren't on any pages anyway and some I had recognized of yours had been unused for more than two or three years (removed long ago for reasons either explained to you then, or because it was blurry, an upgrade was letter found, or there were too many on the page). If you wish to keep them personally, the best thing to do is place them on your user page in a gallery.

      I'm not sure what you're referring to as far as an edit summary.

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    • Scarecrow said "No edit summary was given." It says that on about 7 messages I got from him/her.

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    • The screenshot of Annie Sue was replaced because it wasn't very good quality.

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  • Gonzo, Kenny Baker, Dizzy Gillespie, Tommy McQuater

    Gonzo, Kenny Baker, Dizzy Gillespie, and Tommy McQuater.

    Something you might like....

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  • Hi! I saw some of the songs that you've been adding. Did you get some of the Dutch records?

    Also, let me know if you can add any records to the page I started at Sandbox:Records Used on Sam and Friends, or if you need help identifying anything you already know something about.

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    • As exciting as that would be, no (although I have found non-Muppet German "hoerspiele" albums in El Paso). I'm mostly checking the album pages for sufficient info to fill redlinks (when the song was reused again and again on albums, as often happened). Sometimes checking Discogs.com for album backs too.

      For "Waarom Waarom Waarom" (with no real description on the source album beyond title translation), I found the song on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Fv-kMeLlU

      I then found the cache of a Dutch lyric site with an entry for the song (they've since pulled them, probably copyright reasons) and which I could check with the video to see that they matched. Then ran through translator. Other questions included "Why are there waves at sea," "Why can't I smoke cigars," and "Why is there no pudding today?"

      Re Sam and Friends, just the info I already posted. Looks like we have a source for "A Horse Named Bill" (since Grant Baciocco checked it with Karen Falk and posted the full song track which matches), just be nice to actually find one from the album (in this case, Bob Gibson's Offbeat Folk Songs, 1956).

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    • So can I add that album, or did you need more information? I didn't know that Riverside did any folk albums. I think they're now owned by the people who own Fantasy and a bunch of other jazz labels, and it would be fun to try to find it.

      Also, has anybody ever attempted any airdates for Sam and Friends, or is that lost forever? I've always wondered if the DC TV Guide had anything listed. Was the show done live? I've had a crazy idea to try to put them in some kind of order, especially the color ones. It's kind of neat that he happened to land at an NBC affiliate, since NBC had color way before the other networks.

      Anyway, I was just thinking of stuff to do, and I owe you a long e-mail, too!

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  • Hey Aleal!

    I just wanted to point out that there actually is a Wikipedia page for Michael and Patricia Silversher and I think it should be added to their page on here.

    Here it is:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silversher_%26_Silversher

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    • Hi! Feel free to add it yourself. But the particular link on that page went to nothing (and it doesn't look like the page was deleted, just that it never existed under that title).

      Just use this formula: {{wikipedia|Silversher & Silversher}}

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    • Aleal wrote:
      Hi! Feel free to add it yourself. But the particular link on that page went to nothing (and it doesn't look like the page was deleted, just that it never existed under that title).

      Just use this formula: {{wikipedia|Silversher & Silversher}}

      Hi!

      Okay. I will make sure I do that.


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  • Hey, Andrew! I know I told you that the color clip of Singin' in the Rain was done by Edie Adams. And then I was looking at the list of other Sam and Friends skits, and I was thinking. Would it be beyond the scope of this wiki to assemble a page of all of the original records that they lip-synched? Looking through the descriptions for the various skits, sometimes I can't tell if they're lip-synching a record, or doing an original skit. I think it would be neat to make a page of all of the original records that they used, with pictures of course, kind of like Bob's discography. What do you think?

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    • Well, I started Sandbox:Records Used on Sam and Friends just so I could put all my information in one place to see how many records we know about. Can you think of any that I missed?

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    • By the way, I love all of the people you've been adding!

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  • Unless the character was recast at any point, if you have access to "Being Elmo," there's scenes of her training with Kevin that you can get a screengrab of.

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    • Thanks for the heads up! I don't have access at present, but now I'll know where to look. I'll also use this to park a theory (forums aren't as good as talk pages for just info dumping).

      Boris Scheigam worked for years with a puppeteer named Evelyne Horenfeld. http://www.planete-jeunesse.com/staff-7059-evelyne-horenfeld.html

      She even co-wrote La Minute des Petites Sorcières, a French kids puppets show, and current copyright notices give that to "Boris et Evelyne Scheigam."

      So my assumption is that Boris Scheigam probably married Evelyne Horenfeld, but I can't find anything specific enough to cite. So just putting it here so I don't lose it.

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  • The main page says Sesame Street is in season 44, just to let you know. :-)

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