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  • Hiya! Just wondering what makes some of these names linkable, and others not. IIRC, we do pages for Creature Shop actors who had scenes with the creatures, but not for those who did not, is that right? Full disclosure: I've never see Rat.

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    • That was for Creature Shop-effects films from outside companies. Rat was Henson produced as well, so we've allowed more there for cast (but not necessarily for director, writer, etc.), although I've done some unlinking often based on just how likely they are to get pages. In this case, all of the main characters and most of the support had scenes with the Creature Shop rat.

      A couple redlinked also because of double connections: Jer O'Leary was in Animal Farm and I have screengrabs of both. Ed Byrne was interviewed in I Love Muppets.

      Two were really just for connections purposes and I might unlink (I don't remember their scenes or interaction): Niall O'Brien was in Braveheart, David Lean's Ryan's Daughter, King Ralph, and lots of stuff. Stanley Townsend was a regular on Galavant as the king of Valencia, did voices in Cars 2, and was one of the bad guys in 24: Live Another Day.

      So basically in this case, I left the redlinks mainly as to-do reminders for me. I have the DVD (and a few leftover screengrabs in files for a couple). When I have time, I'll pull it out and fill in some holes and unlink whatever's left over. (Other common reason for names to be unlinked, which applied to the dog actor who I would have given a page for: just can't find a scrap of info online.)

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    • Okay, gotcha. I came across them on the latest sweep through WantedPages. I'll leave them alone then.

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  • Heya! As you may have noticed, I've been doing some back-end clean-up of project pages, discussion archives, etc. Wikia launched Special:Community on the side rail some time ago, and I figured we may as well start using it.

    To begin with, I needed to clean up our Muppet Wiki: prefixed namespace which has kind of become a dumping ground for whatever over the years. A chunk of that was user talk pages which I moved to each user's username subspace, which is more appropriate anyway.

    To solve the issue of Current Events having to username subspace, I created User:MuppetArchives to house that stuff. And, by extension, I also included any other places we used to discuss things which would now be done in Special:Forum. All that stuff can be found sub-categorized into Category:Muppet Wiki Archives.

    I also consolidated some policy pages, for example pages we had for explaining how to disambiguate and how to title an article all went to Muppet Wiki:Article Naming Conventions.

    As for Help pages, I nuked all of those as Wikia hosts that stuff globally and they keep it updated more that we do (I don't think we'd touch those in a decade or so).

    So, no real changes, just organizing. Hopefully it's all just as easy to find; I'm sure I'm not done yet. There's still a distinction to make, I think, between the "project" pages and the "policy" pages that are left now in the Muppet Wiki: namespace. And then, there's some re-writing to do. The FAQ for starters, so that it's more approachable and easily branches out to the other policy pages. All of this would be accessible from Special:Community which is what Wikia is pushing as a landing page for all this sort of stuff (and a better use of that space than their bizarre obsession with trying to get people to constantly organize templates *audible eyeroll here*).

    Anyway, hope this wasn't tl;dr ... lemme know your thoughts. I'm probably heading to bed soon, but I'll be on in the morning.

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    • With project pages, when I said moved under that label, I was thinking a new subcat for the "Wanted" sort of pages, or they can stay where they are (having cleaned up the old stuff, it's a lot more manageable). Right now, it's really those four, Image chamber, and maybe Milestones and Quality Articles that aren't clear policy pages, and the latter two are closer to FAQ/"Muppet Wiki (website)" in defining us. Out of the current 24, that's a better average.

      And yeah, transcript guidelines belong in policies, but checklists belong in sandbox (since they'll be updated and deleted once they're no longer needed).

      Policies and Guidelines has definitely needed updating (I've done some myself, but there are a lot of instances where we find ourselves explaining things again and again because we've established them in discussions and edit summaries but can't point to a single page).

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    • Yeah, I thought of establishing a new Project: namespace, but I'm not crazy about asking Wikia for things. Everything's a struggle.

      But you're right, it's much more manageable now, so maybe we just keep them there unless/until those types of pages start to grow in abundance.

      Sounds good, I'll start looking at P&G again in an effort to make it less intimidating, maybe branching those sections out to their own pages.

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  • Fozzieboba told me the Alteration in the Sprout copy of 4036 (which I added, but Jbrangwyne removed) is not from memory, but it's from a physical copy that he has saved on his DVR from Sprout on Demand. Do you trust him?

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    • User:Fozzieboba is blocked on this wiki.

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    • Yes, as Jonathan said in his edit summary, we don't use info from blocked users (and it's a given that blocked users aren't trusted or to be encouraged). If an admin explains why they reverted or changed something, please don't ask another admin. If you feel the need to discuss it with the first admin, fine, but the explanation was straight forward in this case.

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  • What do you think of Baron Münchhausen being in Historical References? Wikipedia says he's a fictional character based on someone. Does this fit better in Literary References the way we're using it?

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  • Big Bird Votes for Women

    I just came across this clip from one of the PBS Interstitials and immediately thought about the 1976 calendar. I'm thinking of starting a Women's Suffrage article, but I feel like I need a third reference to justify it. I thought maybe there might be a brief reference at the beginning of I Want to Be President, but I can't find my copy.

    Can you think of anyplace that might have referenced the movement of women fighting for the vote?

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  • Wow, that's really bizarre that Deborah Hautzig has so many pen names and we've been treating them as different pages all this time. I didn't see anything on her site, where did we find that?

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    • That's actually one reason I'm wanting to start a sandbox tracking these. Sarah Albee technically has three pen names, but Catherine Samuel and Catherine Lukas are closer to being variations of each other (she's quoted as saying those were combinations of her children's names).

      Berger gets some sort of prize for writing Muppet books as Martha T. Ottersley, which I found out is a character from her other books, but it sounds like the aunt of Pip and Pop.

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    • Ha! The race is on, then.

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  • Heya! I'm not sure if you've heard of Portable Infoboxes before, but I wanted to let you know I've been working on converting Muppet Wiki's infoboxes to this markup. The tl;dr is that it's more future proof than current infoboxes, and better on non-desktop skins, namely the mobile skin. You can read more here and here if you're curious or not sure about the idea. Basically I'll be able to convert all of your infoboxes to the new markup, which won't affect the pages or the content on the infoboxes, but will affect the code.

    I've made a PI version of the Song infobox [[User:Technobliterator/Showcase|here]] - any thoughts on this? I can make any tweaks as needed, but if it's all cool with you and the rest of the community here, I'll be able to convert all the rest of your infoboxes - as far as I can tell, they all roughly follow this same style as Song anyway, so it should be easy enough to do. And if you have any questions or need help with anything else, I'll be free to help you out. Thanks!

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    • Hi, tec. We've heard of Portable Infoboxes. We're all set with them at this time, but thanks for thinking of us :)

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  • Can you please find out which muppet babies episode is it where fozzie bear was apologizing to his toy teddy

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  • Am I crazy, or didn't a Muppet Babies episode feature Robby the Robot footage from something?

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    • I've encountered lots of robot footage (including from Undersea Kingdom) but not Robby. It could be there, however. Forbidden Planet wasn't (and isn't) public domain, so more than likely, *if* the right end credits are attached (and they're sometimes from the hour form, or not included at all in circulating copies), it would be mentioned (the ones not mentioned by film title are usually public domain stuff, from a footage clearing house often specified, or they'll say something like "Additional footage from Columbia Pictures," meaning their film library in general, or some such).

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    • Yeah, I'm probably thinking of another robot. A quick scene where Gonzo opens the closet door, sees the robot, and slams the door shut again. I'll keep an eye out, thanks!

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