I might be getting some Sesame Street episodes soon, and I want to know how to find each segment that's in the episodes. I know some segments have their own pages on the Muppet Wiki, but I don't know how to find the others. How do I find the segments for the episodes?
Andrew, I meant to write to you about this quite some time ago but never got around to it until now. When I added Paul Frees to the connections section of "Twice Upon a Time", you deleted him saying something about it just being lip synch. I don't understand what you mean by that. He was the voice of multiple characters, he's listed in the credits, and everything. Would you mind cluing me in as to why you don't think he should be referenced in the connections?
It means he isn't actually a connection because the Muppets lip-synched to his voice (way back I thought he'd done a commercial for them and it was proven incorrect), anymore than Ronald Reagan is for using clip footage. The connections section is for people who directly worked with the Muppets in a Muppet relevant project (or wrote something for Miss Piggy's books, took a picture, etc.)
It's why Paul Frees isn't on Old-time radio either. Any summary that says "no direct connection" (and you'll find a lot of them from a lot of people), that's what it means. Not questioning their involvement in that page or subject, but that they didn't work with the Muppets, were just referenced or had their voice or footage sampled and so forth.
No. A rule of thumb, check how a person is categorized. If a person's page is in Category:Celebrities or any of the direct actor/writer/crew categories, they're fair game for connections.
If it's in references or mentions only, they're not. That's why It's a Wonderful Life or a few other old movie pages link the stars from the top if they have pages... but not as connections, because James Stewart and Lionel Barrymore never worked with the Muppets. Similar to when someone wanted to add as connections to Epic Rap Battles of History every historical or fictional character portrayed, which didn't fit because those were usually only in as references, and those that weren't were impersonated, so either way it's not actually a connection.
I heard you guys say in Policies and Guidelines that you guys don't rely on memories for information, and I also heard Oscarfan say in a Muppet Central post "Memory Isn't Always Reliable". Why don't you guys trust our memories?
For the reason you mentioned. Memory alone isn't reliable. We don't trust our own memories generally until or unless verified by actual evidence (the source show, production documents, interview, whatever). People remember things or guests on Sesame Street or Muppet productions that never happened, and that's where rumors come from. I've remembered thinking a character was probably played by one performer, then find video footage and clear proof it wasn't. On and on it goes.
Memory cannot be verified since it's only in your head and can change with the years. A photograph or video of what you remember seeing, that can be shared and confirmed or corrected ("No, that's not so and so, that's...") It's as simple as that. Sometimes you can ask "I remember such and such happening" on a forum and someone else may actually have a video link or a document to add to it. But we can't just go by "I remember this," because our approach is encyclopedic and based on citing sources. Memory is not encyclopedic and can only be sourced outside of itself (that's what we mean by verifying a memory).
Since I know you're good at digging up credits and other roles of people, the Sesamstrasse fanclub site has a section on their guest starts throughout the years and I thought it could be a nice little side project if you'd want to take it on.
Thanks! I'd seen that when you linked to to Julian before (it's a shame the site's robot now prevents archive.org from showing the old pages, which I used; they had info on insert actors, including one also listed as a guest star). The guest star page is how I was able to start Wolfgang Völz.
But I see some additions (again including some folks who overlapped, repeat visits or dubbing or something) and a couple names I already knew from other stuff. Plus right now I've been researching German radio databases (finding out who of cast/dubbing voices overlapped with the OTR era) and finding some neat connections with one person in particular.
Another thing I've found: this channel has some Portuguese dubs of Sesame (mostly Play with me Sesame) and includes info on the dubbing artists (including a video of the actual dubbing to get a couple of pics).