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El Sleazo

Steve Whitmire posted this on the alt.tv.muppets in 1996:

Richard and Jerry are seated inside the El Sleazo at the beginning of the scene. I was standing behind Kermit and Fozzie during the beauty pageant at the county fair (on crutches). Richard did drive a taxi in TGMC, because he actually owned one in NYC.

We have the last two documented here, but do Hunt's and Nelson's El Sleazo cameos show up in the film? -- Brad D. (talk) 19:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure not. But I'd stand to be proven wrong. Also, while that probably was Whitmire, one should at least entertain the possibility that it was not. If it was him, then it's likely that the cameos either didn't make the cut, or are just too obscured. There's a photo of Statler and Waldorf appearing in a restaurant in The Muppet Movie... it could have been cut from the same sequence, or it may have been in Rowlf's restaurant. — Scott (talk) 01:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm a little confused. If you mean that the image on Steve Whitmire Cameos isn't him, apart from looking like him at the time, it perfectly fits the description. Is there a sufficient reason to question it? (I mean, it seems like we had even less evidence outside of appearance comparisons for Kirk Thatcher's Klingon Cameo). But as far as the El Sleazo thing goes, I checked my copy of the movie. If they're there, they're buried in such a way that they can't be easily seen. The sequence is lousy with colorfully garbed extras, and if they were costumed or something, all the more difficult to spot them without knowing what to look for. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 01:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
That picture is from the Bogen County Fair, not the El Sleazo. Did I misunderstand? — Scott (talk) 01:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I think you did. The quote: "I was standing behind Kermit and Fozzie during the beauty pageant at the county fair (on crutches)." There's no mention of Whitmire being in the El Sleazo. Of course, I don't see the curtches either (unless they were used for height elevation or something), but it seems fairly conclusive. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 01:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I see what you're saying. What I meant when I said that maybe it wasn't Whitmire -- I was talking about the post on the newsgroup where he says "Richard and Jerry are seated inside the El Sleazo at the beginning of the scene." Whoever posted that very likely could have been him, but it also could have been someone who was not him. Follow? — Scott (talk) 01:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay. I follow. Given the fact that we have been privileging "Steve Whitmire" posts on pages like Eugene (Muppets Tonight), though, and the specifics given, is it worthwhile to consider him a potential imposter? Only because if so, it would seem better to omit anything sourced that way. I don't see a middle ground on this. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 01:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't realize we were using newsgroup posts to source information conclusively. The case with Eugene appears to have ended in ambiguaity anyway. I spoke with Whitmire personally at Muppetfest and confirmed that it was indeed him who had posted previously at Tough Pigs. So, it's certainly possible that it was him on the newsgroup. — Scott (talk) 01:44, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

namespace

When I initially created these pages, I did so with the Cameos: namespace. Looking at the whole of the wiki now, would it make sense to move these pages to, for example, Jim Henson Cameos? Please weigh in on pros and cons for the move. One pro I can think of is that namespace is traditionally for special pages or project pages, and these, as are, don't fit in with that. -- Scott (talk) 01:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I don't really have much of an argument except to say that these titles don't fit the rest of the articles that we have. -- Danny (talk) 01:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

misc

Shouldn't the cameos of Peter Linz, Drew Massey, and Rickey Boyd from Muppets in Space be on this page? And Martin Robinson was in the audience of a scene of Muppets Take Manhattan. Yosi 03:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to add them in, if you like. They should go in Miscellaneous Cameos unless there's enough to break off into a seperate page for that performer. And don't forget to place the talkbox code on the article/category page, not the discussion page. Cheers! --Andrew, Aleal 23:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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