Muppet Wiki

Talk:International Fraggle Rock Shows

27,088pages on
this wiki

Back to Category

Talk pages are no longer used.
Please use the Forum for discussing article changes.

More International

This is probably going to be a "nobody knows/still stumping" query, but I wanted to put it up here anyway, as a starting point if anyone *is* able to find information/sources on this. The ever fallible IMDb has individual pages for a few Fraggle Rock internation shows, as listed here. One, "Furagol Roku," an alleged South Korean version with a live acto, Moon Kang, as "the artist" (presumably a Doc counterpart) is intriguing... if true. There lies the rub. IMDb (and one typical over-excited Muppet Central post) is the only source for this series' existence. I question it also because the two other dubs they have contradict info that we have *and* have sourced (from Henrik, from international Wikipedias, and from resumes, amongst others). They list the Danish version as "Fraggel-Land" and the Norwegion version as "Fragglebergen," while we have Fragglerne and Fragglene respectively, with video covers to confirm the latter (and lists an actor playing Doc in live-action for Fragglene, again contradicting sources). Anyway, I'm mentioning it here in the unlikely event that anyone ever comes across a reference to a South Korean Fraggle Rock, anything to prove this wasn't just some random users Piazza Sesamo-esque mixed memories or hallucinations. Andrew Leal (talk) 01:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

"Furagol Roku" sounds made up to me. The three actual Fraggle co-productions that we know about were in the UK, France and Germany, and then the show was also dubbed in the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark and Norway. It's pretty clear that the Fraggle idea basically got as far as Northern and Western Europe and then stopped dead. It didn't even penetrate to the countries that had Sesame co-productions, like Italy, Spain and Mexico.
So the idea that it somehow skipped over all the other European countries and somehow landed in South Korea, which in 1985 didn't even have free democratic elections yet... I call no way. -- Danny (talk) 01:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, it *did* make it to Spain, as "Los Fraguel." Again, just a dub, which is the main thing that made me doubtful of the Korean thing. So, I stuck it here, for two reasons: a, in the unlikely event someone does find proof, and b, to hopefully prevent someone else from creating such an article based *solely* on IMDb (which has happened a few times before; yeah, they're easy to debunk and delete, but it's slightly easier if we don't attract them to begin with). Andrew Leal (talk) 02:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and here's an interview with an actress who claims to be the Japanese Mokey (and other "seiyuu" fan pages mention a Japanese Fraggle dub). So it seems likely it wasn't limited to Europe, but it also doesn't prove the South Korean claim. I wish I had my copy of Down at Fraggle Rock here, for the international theme song section. Any countries listed there (and I vaguely think Mexico *might* have been among there) clearly had dubbed versions (and *possibly* postcard segments; while we know of the three full co-productions, I keep coming across vague references to other countries just using the postcards). Andrew Leal (talk) 02:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Andrew those titles for the norwegian and danish version is just wrong. They refer to the loacation it self. In Norway the rock is called "Fraggleberget" (Fraggle Mountain). Fraggle-land is mentioned in the Danish intro (Fraggle Country). As you said the Danish version name is confirmed by the video cover. Heres a confirmation for the Norwegian version, it's the tv guide from NRK. I might also be able to upload a few clips so you can see that the Doc segments are the dubbed american segments rytter 10:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Around Wikia's network

Random Wiki