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Disney Store merchandise

So -- we kind of had this conversation two months ago, but now we're having it again. :) They're finally putting out some Muppet stuff for the Disney Stores -- right now, we've got Muppet towels (Disney Store), Muppet stationery set (Disney Store) and Muppet Christmas ornaments (Disney Store). Do we want to put that stuff in this category, or have a Disney Store category, or forget all about it? -- Danny@fandom (talk) 01:04, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that does complicate it just slightly, but only slightly, since unless we can confirm that all this stuff was also sold at the parks, it wouldn't fit here. I think I'd favor a Disney store category if this stuff is coming out there, but shorten the article titles to "Muppet towels (Disney)" and so on (since we can use the categories to make it clear what was available there, and if we know for a fact items were in both, we can do that). The other option would be to just turn this into a simple "Disney Merchandise" category, with a description covering Disney manufactured stuff showing up at Disney Stores, parks, etc (they'll occasionally surface at places like Tuesday Morning some time later, but never at Target, K-Mart, etc.). -- Andrew Leal (talk) 04:27, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
I created those titles because they actually say "Disney Store" on the packaging -- it feels like a different situation than "Hallmark" or another licensee. Does that make a difference?
"Disney Merchandise" might work. -- Danny@fandom (talk) 06:42, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
It makes for clunky article titles, though, but if you want to use the full thing, I guess I can understand it. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 06:46, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

If we don't mind merchandise being in multiple categories (which obviously we don't), I wouldn't obect to creating a "Disney Store Merchandise" category, since obviously they do have exclusive stuff that is already on the wiki that wasn't available in the parks (The Muppet Christmas Carol plush is the first thing that came to my mind), and there are vice versa items. As long as its clear that its not just "Disney Merchandise" which technically any Kermit toy that comes out now is. -- Nate (talk) 16:22, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Category Name

There is a lot of merchandise coming out from the theme parks, and I created this category thinking we could list it in here, as well as the specific categories for the merchandise, i.e. Die Cast Cars, Muppet Plush, Muppet PVC Figures, etc. Unless we think it's over kill. I was just looking at it from an ease of finding products, grouping everything together, etc. Just some of the stuff off the top of my head include Disney Racers, Vinylmation, Buttons and Pins, snowglobes, plush, [[Disneyland pressed pennies|pressed pennies]], antenna toppers, salt and pepper shakers, shot glasses, and more. While some of it is specific to Muppet*Vision 3D, a great deal of it is not branded specifically for the attraction.

It's something I wouldn't be offended if we decided it wasn't needed, but would be willing to tag if we do. Just putting it out there to get opinions on. -- Nate (talk) 20:26, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a great idea! I have a specific love for the Disney parks and that merchandise, so I like having a category for it.
I have a question about it, though. Some of the stuff in the category is exclusive to the theme parks, and some of it was also available at the Disney Store -- like the aluminum water bottle, the snowglobes and the Green & Loving It stuff.
It's a little misleading to say "exclusive" for stuff that wasn't, so I can think of a couple possible options:
  1. Change the name to Disney Theme Parks Merchandise, so it notes things that were sold at the theme parks but doesn't say that they're exclusive there.
  2. Change the name to Disney Store Merchandise, which is accurate since the stores at the theme parks are also called Disney Stores, but it's less fun.
  3. Keep it as Disney Theme Parks Exclusive Merchandise, and take out the stuff that isn't exclusive.
  4. Leave it the way it is and stop being so nerdy about it.
My vote would be for #1. It keeps everything in the category, keeps the fun of the theme parks idea, and also shortens the cat name a little bit. What do other folks think? -- Danny@fandom (talk) 22:58, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
I vote for losing the "exclusive" in the category name also. -- Wendy (talk) 05:40, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
It makes sense to me. I know some of the pins later trickled down, if not to the regular Disney Stores, to some of the outlet types (that often get park leftovers (there's one like that in Anaheim, but one in an outlet mall opened recently in El Paso too). But they either originated at the parks or were definitely available there, and I think it would help to better be able to track all of the Disney-specific merchandise together (including the stuff sold outside MuppetVision). So that's another vote for Option 1. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 06:29, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with taking out Exclusive. It's such a simple resolve to what I too thought was a clunky category name when I created it. I'll fix it. -- Nate (talk) 16:54, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Done and I went ahead and moved the talk page here. -- Nate (talk) 17:08, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
Yay! It's nice when everybody agrees. -- Danny@fandom (talk) 18:14, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

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