Talk:Awards

Worth an article?Edit

"Sesame Workshop Receives Four CINE Awards": "Sesame Workshop, the nonprofit organization behind Sesame Street, has been honored with four CINE Golden Eagle awards. Sesame Tree, Northern Ireland’s version of Sesame Street, was recognized for its episode “The Share Necessities.” The three other awards are for the Workshop’s Educational Outreach Initiatives which include Here for You: Helping Children Cope with Serious Illness; Let's Get Ready! Planning Together for Emergencies; and Talk, Listen, Connect: Deployments, Homecomings, Changes. The international CINE awards aims to recognize excellence in the production of film, television, video and new media. Sesame Tree was recognized in the “Children’s Programs” category, while the Outreach Initiatives were recognized in the Non- telecast “Children’s and Entertainment” category." -- Zanimum 01:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Sesame Workshop mentions in on their Facebook group. -- Zanimum 21:43, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Notable awardsEdit

There are a couple awards listed in this category that I think may not be that notable; I'm wondering if we should try to define this category.

I'd suggest that the standard is that a Muppet (or Muppet-type person) has to show up at the awards in order for an award to be notable for us. That would include the Academy Awards, Emmy Awards, Daytime Emmy Awards, Grammy Awards, The Television Academy Hall of Fame, and even minor stuff like the Common Ground Awards and the Environmental Media Awards. I'm going to assume Kevin Clash showed up for the Image Awards, and the Sesame Park folks for the Gemini Awards.

The ones that I'm wondering about are:

As an example of why I think these may not be notable, the TV-DVD Awards are run by Home Media Magazine, and based on online voting. I've never even heard of Home Media Magazine, so I have to assume that they don't have a televised awards ceremony. I know that TV Guide and the Hollywood Reporter are sort of involved, so it's a real thing, but I think if you go down this road, you end up with the "Awesome Awards" given out by a random blogger.

So I think having an actual Muppet-type person showing up or taking note of the award could be a good standard for what deserves to be noted on the wiki. What do other folks think? -- Danny (talk) 03:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Do we know Muppet-type people haven't shown up at these? Someone, as I just added to the article, did show up at the Webby Awards to make the traditional 5-word acceptance speech. And a lot of the nominees show up to the Young Artist Awards, though they are all regular actors, not Muppeteers. -- Zanimum 17:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The TV-DVD Awards with TV Guide has just become less. TV Guide Network, TVGuide.com, and TVShowsonDVD (the site that works with the awards) are now part of Lionsgate. They'll retain the name "TV Guide", but not actually be run by them. -- Zanimum 17:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Nick just created another Awards page -- Global Media Awards -- that I would also question. I think that's a good example of the kind of thing I was hoping to avoid by starting this discussion. Anybody can announce awards. -- Danny

(talk) 18:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

While I agree it would be silly to create a page for "Bob's Blog's Top 10 Movies of the Year" Award, these are all notable awards (albeit not always the most well-known awards). However these have all be "endorced" or touted by official Muppet/Henson sources. Muppets.com and From the Balcony both showed off their nominations/wins on their sites. The Jim Henson Company released an official press release bragging about Fraggle Rocks win at the TV-DVD Awards [1]. The new Muppets.com touted their Global Media Awards nomination in their news ticker. Others have appeared in blurbs on DVD cases or have been mentioned in passing in press releases or company achievements[2]. The studios care about these as if they were "real" awards (even if most people have never heard of them). They may not have televised award ceremonies - they may not be the Oscars, Emmys, Grammys, Golden Globes or among the top 10 (or top 20) most well known entertainment awards... but I think they are noteworthy. -- Brad D. (talk) 18:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

If that's the case, then it would be good to include those sources in the articles. It doesn't necessarily mean that we find them notable, but it would help. -- Danny

(talk) 18:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

As an aside on this discussion, I don't see how Muppets.com and From the Balcony boasting about the nominations/wins justifies a separate page for the award itself, when all we really say about them is that they gave awards to the aforementioned. From the Balcony has that all covered in its own section. Blurbs in DVD cases and press releases are also likely to latch onto any award, even the minor ones or those that aren't juried at all but awarded as long as you submit (which Henson did with the parent's award on The Blue Elephant DVD). So those don't prove anything one way or another. Basically, if it's just the one award and from a fairly minor or new body, I don't see why it can't simply be mentioned on the relevant page for what was nominated, and in most cases, it is. It's not a knock against the award necessarily, but there's just not much to say about it. -- Andrew Leal (talk) 22:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)